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[-] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I... I think you both are mostly saying the same thing. Just OP considers the "mask removal" a pretty big event (which I would agree with - we likely wouldn't have gotten such extremist behavior with the alt-right if they hadn't felt empowered by their figurehead).

They don't seem to be defending pre-Trump republicanism - just saying that Trump caused a lot of really bad party puzzle pieces to fall into place, and effectively caused the party to implode, which IS shown by infighting, their abysmal midterm results (relative to how everyone expected them to perform), their inability to get on the same page with literally anything and, most of all, their donor money running dry

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They would've done the same things, especially if they got the supreme court stacked like Trump did but without the extra drama.

It'd just be Mitt Romney spouting about protecting marriage and family values from erosion by all those miscreants instead of ol' Marge TG spouting off about the drag queens grooming your kids at the library.

If anything, it's actually a blessing Trump pulled the mask off. Now, only the truly dense or selfish fail to understand or admit how vile the Republican "leadership" is.

[-] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

Whne you say same things, are tou also talking about January 6 and the increase in alt-right domestic terrorism? Because that would be where we disagree.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

They've gotten more bold, yes, but it is CRITICAL to remember that these are the same conservatives with the same values they've had all along. They NEVER actually supported democracy. They just wanted to stay out of jail, and Trump made them think they might actually get away with it.

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