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[–] MrPiss@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago (6 children)

"If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal."

The capitalist class doesn't need to destroy liberal democracy to keep everyone in line so nothing should change. We might go to having a right wing strong man with a political party that returns to an older kind of political corruption with party machines that strong arm the populace to vote how they want and stuff the ballot boxes as needed. Basically what the US did to create "democracies" around the world like in Russia.

In like 10-20 years there might be a decline in the treat economy and the crushing weight of neoliberalism might spawn an actual socialist movement. If that happens then there would be the bipartisan dictatorship under the Hunter Biden/Barron Trump copresidency where they share the share the presidency like Roman consuls to crush anything anticapitalist.

After a few years they might let go of the dictatorship and institute a multiparty democracy like the eurocucks have with defanged social democrats as the furthest left option and proclaim progress.

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

"If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal."

Is this a good rhetoric considering the history of universal suffrage and all, voting was illegal for large parts of the population throughout history? Of course liberal democracy is shit, but I don't think hard fought concessions necessarily legitimizes the system.

[–] MrPiss@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

It's a pretty well known phrase in the US (I don't know where you're from). Capitalist countries throw out rights and institute reactionary/fascist dictatorships to rediscipline the working class and the quote was the first thing I thought of to explain my views on what it would take for the US to revoke them. It's not literally true but it's spiritually true. Those rights were given out a concessions and are subject to change or being revoked like abortion.

Ultimately, we're in a very far left internet space and if I was talking to a "normal person" I'd gauge their politics and try to figure out how to talk to them without seeming weird.

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