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US president also to seek constitutional amendment to limit immunity for presidents and various officeholders

Joe Biden will announce plans to reform the US supreme court on Monday, Politico reported, citing two people familiar with the matter, adding that the US president was likely to back term limits for justices and an enforceable code of ethics.

Biden said earlier this week during an Oval Office address that he would call for reform of the court.

He is also expected to seek a constitutional amendment to limit immunity for presidents and some other officeholders, Politico reported, in the aftermath of a July supreme court ruling that presidents have broad immunity from prosecution.

Biden will make the announcement in Texas on Monday and the specific proposals could change, the report added.

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[–] TheAristocrat@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Now that he doesn't have to worry about getting reelected, he doesn't have to pussyfoot around anymore.

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What if we just made the limit 1 term? Then no presidents would be doing actions purely to get reelected?

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 16 points 1 month ago

It's helpful not totally replace the executive branch every four years if you don't have to

[–] _bcron@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the problem with that would be that every 4-12 years we'd have a lame duck supreme court playing tug of war with the last supreme court over a handful of issues.

What we really need is to be able to easily oust justices for ethics violations and conflicts of interest, like what the hell is Thomas still doing there??

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Thomas is still there because taking Bribes and Gifts from Billionaires who have Cases before you is FINE! The REAL Corruption is Judge MERCHAN'S DAUGHTER who DONATED some Money once to DEMOCRATS!

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Well, they still represent their party, so their actions could still affect an election. An embarrassing lame duck session would screw the next party nominee.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Would be so much worse... Think about any type of project or policy that takes more than 4 years to complete (and longer to see tangible benefits from).

It's already bad enough having a GOP president come in every 8 years to undo most of the good things their Democratic predecessor accomplished (with Reagan removing Carter's solar panels from the White House roof being the archetype).

Imagine having that pendulum swing every 4 years. Literally nothing that takes longer than 4 years would ever get done.

[–] nik9000@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mexico does that! It doesn't look super common but it's a thing.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mexico is in a very different situation regarding the size and complexity of their administrative state. They're also facing an entirely different type of corruption and political violence than we have up here...

[–] nik9000@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah! Every place I saw that did it seemed quite different from the US. I just thought it was neat that there are places trying this.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't wait for him to flip the table on Israel

any second now...

aaaaaaaaannny second now..........

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why would he do that before the election? It's still the same party, and him doing that would do nothing but hurt Kamala at this point. The smart move is to walk the tightrope for a few more months.

Yeah I get it, it sucks that American politicians can't just say certain things without tanking their career and destroying their political future. It's fucked up and gross, but it's real.

A lot of people are talking like this is a done deal, but I've seen enough elections at this point to know that a million impossible to predict things can (and likely will) happen between now and November.

As much as you might want the Democratic party to shout support for Palestinians from the rooftops, the current reality is that we need to continue to be very careful. If you actually care about Palestinian lives beyond using them as political pawns, then unfortunately we need to play the game until November.

Because the alternative is an unacceptable outcome for the Palestinian people.

I'll probably get downvoted for saying it, but it doesn't make it less true: Harris could behave exactly the same toward Israel as Biden, after being elected, and she would still be the only choice this election.

I know there are plenty of genuine people here, but so much of the "genocide Joe" rhetoric was such obvious astroturfing. Or at least began that way...

But we live in a world of cause and effect. Regardless of what happens between now and then there are a few possible outcomes for Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. But objectively, by a long shot, the worst is if Donald Trump and the GOP (with the hands of the Federalist Society, Heritage Foundation, John Birch Society, probably several lame clubs named after Ayn Rand bullshit, firmly up its keister like a goddam Muppet) take the presidency and immediately give Netanyahu carte blanche to "do what needs to be done" there. Which is what he/they will do.

If you think things are bad now, a Trump win would be signing the death warrant for the Palestinian people in the Levant. And every so-called "progressive" that stayed home because of Biden's stances on Israel will have the blood of millions of dead Palestinians on their hands.

I consider myself to be a progressive, but the complete lack of pragmatism I've seen from other so-called progressives lately has been atrocious. So I hope it was mostly astroturf.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He is also expected to seek a constitutional amendment

Arguably, this is still pussyfooting since there's no fucking way he has anything near the number of votes needed for this.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Whenever I see a politician mention anything about a constitutional amendment, I immediately stop reading.

Shit ain't happening... We wouldn't be able to pass an amendment saying "Pizza is yummy" because Republicans would refuse to agree with Democrats. They would actually stop eating pizza altogether because of it. There would be a movement to outlaw pizza because it's grooming our kids (stupid sexy pizza).

I was trying to think of something silly and outlandish, and as I was typing this, I realized... This isn't even that far out of the realm of possibility at this point. It's like legitimately difficult to think of something too far-fetched for this reality. It wouldn't be the first pizza-related issue on the right (ahem, Pizzagate?). Or the second (I just remembered the stupid "pizza is a vegetable" bullshit).

The looking glass ain't shit, we went through it years ago. We're at the end of "2001: A Space Odyssey" with Pink Floyd's Echoes playing in sync with it. If we're lucky, we'll soon make it through the psychedelic spaghettification, and we will get to watch ourselves as a boring old man before becoming a giant space fetus...

Sorry, got kind of sidetracked there what were we talking about again?

Oh yeah, Jupiter and beyond the infinite.....

(Spoiler alert? Lol I couldn't spoil the end of that film if I tried).

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just remembered the stupid “pizza is a vegetable” bullshit

I think you're thinking of Reagan's "ketchup is a vegetable" bullshit.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable, as it is now.

TBF that's not even as bad as Reagan's "ketchup is a vegetable". Canning is a totally legitimate way of preserving tomatoes at their peak of ripeness with their nutritional qualities intact (many chefs even prefer canned tomatoes to fresh ones) and paste/sauce is just the ground-up version of that. Ketchup is that plus a shit ton of sugar and/or corn syrup.

The amount of tomato sauce on pizza is dubiously small, however.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was more about the conservative reaction to the situation. Because it was during Obama tenure, and Michelle had the gall to get all uppity and try to make kids more healthy.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not entirely sure that matters here.

I really don't think there's that many people towards the middle or left of the political spectrum that are going to be upset about this if he gets the changes through.

Besides, any changes that might bother voters will still have an effect on Kamala's campaign until the elections over in November.