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Losing access to Authy leads to another reckoning with Google's security model.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Wilden offered some hope for a future in which ROMs could vouch for their non-criminal nature to Google

Oh, that rubs me the wrong way! It's my godd***ed device, I paid for it with my money, and I'll run whatever I damn well want on it (which is never vanilla Android because I refuse to allow my devices to be ad platforms).

I shouldn't have to prove anything to anyone let alone have it treated as a "criminal OS" by default.

Google needs to be broken up and both Chrome and Android divested to 3rd party, non-profit companies (as well as being demoted to a minority on both steering committees).

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

100% agreed.

My similar comment from the same article not cross posted:

https://hackertalks.com/comment/4516322

@downpunxx@fedia.io it would be awesome if you could use the cross post feature in the future so the discussion doesn't get divided

[–] MaXimus421@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No, it absolutely NOT your gd device. No more than a DVD, an Xbox or similar device. You paid for the "right" to use Their hardware/software and agreed to use it under THEIR conditions.

What in the name of fuck makes yall think these electronics are your actual property to do as you wish with??

Yes, I'm serious. As shitty as what I just said, sounds. You don't technically own shit to any degree. You're essentially renting the right to use it on their terms.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Or more specifically, legally you do own the hardware. You bought it.

But you do not have free permission to run whatever you want on it and have the original software vendor agree to make their stuff work with what you do.

This is similar to how once you opened your lawmower and tinkered with it, the original manufacturer does no longer have to provide mechanical and engineering warranty for the parts you worked with. You modified it, they cannot and will not guarantee shit still works.

However, of course, in this context Google is so big that they might still be legally obliged in places such as the EU to allow free access as they act as a gatekeeper for a whole piece of technology. Similar to how Meta has to provide a sort-of open access to Whatsapp APIs.