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[–] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hey, if you only eat paste, there is no chance you get food poisoning from a dirty cooking area or an unskilled cook.

[–] Killerqu00@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What about the mood debuff?

[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Sounds like something a nice bedroom would offset.

[–] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm somehow always playing transhumanists. They don't get a debuff.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the best part is nobody knows how many legs are mixed into it

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ooooh, are we on a train?

[–] zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Also they clearly had tables, so they don't have to kill each other and break all of their own infrastructure yet.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

#team soylent

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

what if Neo was in reality from the beginning and Morpheus just drugged him and plugged him into the matrix to live in the fake hell version of earth where the fake machines took over

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Jesus parallels make a lot more sense this way

[–] Lawdoggo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also Neo’s Wi-Fi capabilities

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Nah that's just what 5g implants do

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd read a thing a while back that it wasn't WiFi, and more that admin basically said "oh shit. We're not supposed to already get him at this point in the cycle. SUDO_DON'T_FUCK_WITH_HIM" and emergency aborted the squids.

I kinda like that idea better than the inexplicable WiFi, if we're not doing the MWAM approach.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Oh that's fucked up, I have to rethink about all the movies under that angle now

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[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I never understood the plot of the matrix. Why the fuck would you want to live outside of the virtual reality world? Just let the machines make the vr world awesome if you promise not to break out. The whole “the world was too good and the humans noticed so we had to make it shitty” plot point was stupid as fuck. If the world was too awesome you think I’d ever want to leave that world?

[–] query@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"let the machines" is the problem. They decide how it all works, and what it's for. If there was an opt-in virtual world, with an independently certified logging out option, maybe manually checking in with everyone at regular intervals, then probably a whole lot of people would choose to be there.

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Black Mirror's San Junipero was an example of an opt-in and a rare good ending.

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[–] platypode@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that how the matrix 3 ends?

I was super drunk when I watched it but I feel like that's the compromise they reached

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I remember it ends with Doogie Houser saying "lol jk go do whatever you want" and then fly away.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's Matrix 4. Just forget about that whole trainwreck ;)

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Haha you're right. Both of those movies are just so good I mixed them together

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isnt that's the major question of the movie. Is it better to live a lie as a battery slave or free but miserable

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but the answer is easy, battery slave me robot daddy.

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[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was more expressed as a need or a part of the human condition to need to be free. Even if someone was comfortable with the matrix, part of them inside was not. That was a bigger part of some of the Animatrix shorts where it wasn't so much choosing one life over the other, it was the truth or a lie, freedom or subjugation.

[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The animatrix was so good.

[–] WorldWideLem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That's explored in the movie, no? That's why Cypher betrays them to go back into the Matrix. Some people are fine and even prefer the Matrix, others can't live that way knowing it's all fake.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My biggest problem with The Matrix is where the machines are getting the food from to feed the humans. You need a continuous supply of food to support continuous energy conversion; that energy isn't being created from nothing. Normally that comes from the sun photosynthesizing plants (which then works its way up the food chain), but with no sunlight then plants can't grow. They say they feed the liquified remains of dead humans to the living ones, but even if digestion were 100% efficient (which it definitely isn't), the amount of usable "food" would constantly decrease until there's nothing left.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It originally used humans' brains as "wetware," or extra processing space. Imagine everyone's playing an MMO, but the computers are all rendering their own copy of stuff so the server doesn't have to do anything but handshakes and data transfer. The matrix is handled, in part, in our heads.

The test audiences got confused so the whole "lol, people are just batteries ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ " plot was put in place instead.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago

I think it kind of makes sense when you look at the world now

When you keep people busy fighting just to get by, the majority worries more about the next paycheck instead of thinking about how things could get better.

Look at the coal miners - they fight tooth and nail to destroy their health only to enrich someone else. Look at minimum wage service workers, they'll work three jobs where they're constantly treated like crap by everyone, but they won't risk that terrible job to try to unionize

And look at all of us - the world we've created sucks. Most of us are unhappy and never come near our potential, but we're generally more scared of losing whatever we have to even consider a system that would be better for everyone

If we had the time and mental energy, we'd be pushing the boundaries. We'd find our passion, whether it's science or exploration or spiritual development. If there's cracks in the simulation, we'd eventually find them and start picking at them like a scab

In the matrix, the majority is too busy in their gentle suffering to push the boundaries. And the few that have what it takes to break out are given another layer, a hopeless fight where both victory and defeat just restart the cycle

Yes, if the simulation was good enough everyone would willingly stay in the sandbox, but self actualized people will always try to imagine something better. They'd want to explore the universe and build worlds within worlds - if the machines let some people out to explore the real world and left the willing in a great game things would be better for both parties, but they'd have to give up control - the humans outside could fix the skies and colonize endless worlds alongside machines, but they could also decide to come back with better technology and win the war once and for all

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's because The Matrix(the movie) is actually a meta-commentary on being trans, the confusing at best sci-fi is just the veil over the actual meaning.

The matrix(the virtual world) represents cisgender. For most inhabitants, everything is totally fine and nothing is amiss, because they are cis.

The ones that notice something is "off" about the Matrix represent trans people. Taking the red pill is the equivalent of leaving the closet. They end up in a world that mostly hates them and want to control/destroy them(the machines represent bigots) and their safety is much lower than before, but they do it anyways because while it was easier to live the lie, they were never truly happy living it. Living in the real world doesn't guarantee them happiness, far from it, but it at least gives them a chance for it which they never had in the Matrix.

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[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Matrix wouldn't be so bad if they adjusted the hue...just saying.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Huehuehuehuehue

[–] Marcumas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They took out the green tint in the 4k release.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What a weird decision. Would've been nice to have both "versions" maybe.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I the only one that doesn't need concrete logic to enjoy something?

iT hAs PlOtHoLeS

And?

Fucking and!?!?

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only when the plotholes make shit just not work, lile teleporting characters, or plot twists that involve the ol' "you thought I died onscreen, but it was just a flesh wound that looked like impalement" do the plotholes really fuck things up.

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[–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

We gotta go to candy mountain NEOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJCNNwHUOE

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This was addressed in the movie. Prominently. It was the whole 2nd half or final 3rd of the movie.

Also, they gave him the option to back out & just go back home to his Matrix-life. Also a pretty notable part of the movie. It’s even a meme!

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The context of the screencap is a Kia ad if anyone's curious (but also fuck Hyun/Kia and their poor decision-making

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