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[-] Breve@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago

Other fun arguments in the same vein: Is atheism a religion? Is not playing golf a sport? For extra fun, try explaining the answers to both in a non-contradictory way.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

No to both, though atheism can be a theological philosophy.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Zero grew up from the seeds of the undefined, just like negative numbers and people who refuse to accept that the square root only has one value. Undefined is a pathway to many abilities some would consider unnatural.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Zero is a number. Need I say more?

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

N is the set of "counting numbers".

When you count upwards you start from 1, and go up. However, when you count down you usually end on 0. Surely this means 0 satisfies the definition.

The natural numbers are derived, according to Brouwer, from our intuition of time of time by the way. From this notion, 0 is no strange idea since it marks the moment our intuition first begins ^_^

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

0 is natural.

Source - programming languages.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

*Most programming languages

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[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't personally know many programming languages that provide natural number type in their prelude or standard library.

In fact, I can only think of proof assistants, like Lean, Coq, and Agda. Obviously the designer of these languages know a reasonable amount of mathematics to make the correct choice.

(I wouldn't expect the same from IEEE or W3C, LOL

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It's really just a joke about counting from 0 instead of 1.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Oh, array indexing, sure.

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[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago

How can nothing be a number

[-] StuffYouFear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Wouldnt it be best to think of it more as the representation of the absence of something?

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[-] Mio@feddit.nu 3 points 1 month ago

How about minus zero?

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So 0 is hard. But you know what? Tell me what none-whole number follows right after or before 0. That's right, we don't even have a thing to call that number.

[-] bitfucker@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I think p-adic has that

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