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[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 195 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just in: capitalism continues to be shit

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Celebrated greed will be our end.

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[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 89 points 6 months ago (5 children)

This shit actually hurts my soul. This is the type of shit as to why we might not make it. We have the technology to mitigate climate change yet we don't because those in power don't want to see their power decrease. It's a serious reason why we might not make it. How do we even begin to take direct action? I really have no clue, this entire planet, life as we know it, is entirely fucked if we don't do something soon. The US government gave billions to implement charging infrastructure and the corps did jack SHIT with it, the government has become the corps fuck pig, bent over dishing out money while getting fucked.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Might not make it? Sorry man we're literally looking down the barrel of end times.

Human greed can only be stopped when the earth has nothing left to give.

This is the reality we all exist in and 99% of us are powerless to change it, unless we all collectively agree to (spoiler we're not gunna).

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[–] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

EVs are garbage anyways. The only way to actually save anything is to migrate most of the commonly occurring transportation to public electric systems like trains.

EVs are made in a non sustainable manner by raping the earth for the last scraps of rare earth materials, they're hardly the answer

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Certainly correct, we still need a path to direct action and it needs to be everywhere.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 82 points 6 months ago (2 children)

More of that capitalist innovation I keep hearing about huh. Finding innovative new ways to stop new technology that threatens their business from reaching a broader market! Great job

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess one last year has been allowed. After that a flood of cheap (true prices) chinese EVs will arrive.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago

Don’t worry, Biden just imposed tariffs on Chinese EVs so they can rest easy now.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 months ago

So when they say capitalism is innovative, they mean like regressively innovative?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 67 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Sabotaged, or just efficiently increasing shareholder value. It’s called “Fiduciary Responsibility”.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 61 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I am constantly baffled how refusing to futute-proof the company meets the definition of "fiduciary responsibility".

"Let's spike today's profits by destroying tomorrow's profits" doesn't seem very responsible to me.

[–] Jambalaya@lemmy.zip 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's because it's a prisoners dillema. If they do it and other companies don't, they are at a disadvantage. The only way to get proper behavior is to have the government force companies to behave.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The desires of private shareholders, which have exclusively become "give me more NOW!" are wholly incompatible with the long term needs of our species, such as homeostasis with our sole shared COMMUNal habitat. The private shareholders that dictate how our economy runs through their captured governments literally only care as far out as their next quarterly earnings/ego score report, the planet can explode beyond that as far as they're concerned, and my pet theory is that the wealth class is so egotistical, living like Pharoahs as others suffer and still needing mooaaaaaaar, that they kind of want the world to end after they're gone, as they were the only point of it ever existing from their perspective.

Our species only pays lip service to the second, because many to most of us have been successfully propagandized to believe in the lie that we may one day be in the irresponsible sociopath hoarder con-man class, whether through lottery or not buying lattes, lol. And heaven forbid we kneecap the gluttonous, destructive lifestyle we delude ourselves we'll one day have with... barf... responsibilities towards the societies that facilitated such unethical levels of antisocial wealth hoarding to begin with. Punching down looks fun amirite?

Basically the self-inflicted doom of our species that we're sleep walking towards can be boiled down to this meme:

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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Nothing surprising.

EVs have been developed since the 90s at least as far as I know, and progress on them has been sabotaged at nearly every turn by the industry.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 33 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Japanese car manufacturers actually sell a lot of EVs... in Japan. They don't seem to be interested in selling those mini EVs abroad.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well to be fair, trying to sell anything with the word mini in it in America is it uphill struggle; if there's one thing us Americans hate, it's walking uphill.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Or just walking.

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[–] Suoko@feddit.it 29 points 6 months ago

And people don't really care about it . Let the wheel spin and get as much as you can while you ride, don't think about next drivers.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Here in Australia I busted someone with a locked Facebook profile who apparently worked at a ford reseller lying about Kias EV9.

He did the whole laugh emoji and called me a stalker, but deleted his message a few minutes later (probably got a call from his employer who I tagged who was probably worried about the legal repercussions). I pointed out it was libel to lie like that

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

hating EVs is a lifestyle choice for too many people in australia

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

in the world*

car goes vroom vroom and stick shift goes shift shift is honestly a lot of fun in responsible amounts. it will be a battle to undo the carbrain propaganda in people, including myself.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 10 points 6 months ago

Actually.. Just noticed one talking shit about EV's who works for Land rover.

But yeah, I've realised the same people talking shit about EV's, tend to be the same people causing issues for everyone.. They always have a locked profile (because they troll that much), they're often anti-vax/anti-science and they're the kind of toxic a-holes who were buttheads in high school, and continue to be.

I guarantee they also stocked meat and toilet paper during the pandemic, and tend to leave trash when 4wd'ing

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[–] groundling20XX@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Japan in japan sabotages cars. The real issue is that Japan went deep on hydrogen power combined with the large increase in electric prices after 3/11 any future of electric car died for the Japanese domestic market. Toyota in particular put its money in hydrogen buses, cars and other things which lead to a galaoagos tech like half of the rest of the crap in japan. Theres also some general resistance to electric over the past decade to create a parallel technology stack to china which fizzled out.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 months ago (16 children)

is that purely because they can't make them well or is there another reason?

honestly the japanese EV ive been in felt decent?

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 19 points 6 months ago (22 children)

I know Toyota is still ragging on EVs because they invested a lot into hydrogen tech and want that to be the next big thing instead. But I didn't know Honda, Mazda and Suzuki also under-invested.

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[–] CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I know someone with a decade old Leaf and that thing is still going strong with more than 300k on it.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago

Great timeline isn't it

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Imagine where we’d be if this stuff was allowed to mature in the 2000s alone

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Who [Is Killing] The Electric Car

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Watching that in my high school electronics class was a early radicalizing moment

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Today I learned: the "conspiracy theory" about the oil industry killing electric cars in the 90's was absolutely true.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Force them to commit or repeal Chinese tariffs

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The tariffs were explicitly to protect them. To prevent them from having to compete. We're about to eat a lot of shit.

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[–] dropped_the_chief@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We're all going to fry in old age. Our children are going to become sterile. Who tf knows what's going to happen to whatever ppl make it past that.

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

At this rate Saudi Arabia will beat Japan on EVs. A very big claim but I have cause to believe it.

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[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seems kind of spurious to call lobbying sabotage as if the politicians being lobbied are machines and not human beings doing what they've been elected to do as nominally bourgeois party members.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The Japanese car companies put all their eggs in the hydrogen basket, despite their early head start in EV with the Toyota Prius and such, and as hydrogen looks to be more and more of a dead end due to transportation and safety concerns, of course they are going to be sandbagging EV adoption to buy time and catch up.

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[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Companies doing austerity internally to own the clean energy enjoyers

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