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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 154 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Everyone's arguing about whether or not the main character should be black while forgetting the more important point: Ubisoft is trash, and we shouldn't be buying their uninspired shovelware anyway.

[–] Nom@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The other commenters don't seem to understand the difference between boycotting and gatekeeping...

I'm with you man, I haven't bought any Ubisoft stuff for over 10 years now. And the more I learned the more I got surprised by how shovelware can be made even worse.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The last Ubisoft game was Assassin’s Creed 3, right?

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[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Technically, they're only "Samurai" if they're produced in Nippon within the duration of the Kamakura Period through the Meiji Restoration. Otherwise they're just sparkling warrior-nobles.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You are thinking of 51% min of corn. And produced in Kentucky. Fuck, thats whiskey. I mean Whisky!

Bourbon, I was talking about bourbon.

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[–] kaputter_Aimbot@feddit.de 40 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Where was that "historically accurate" crowd when Keanu starred in 47 Ronin?!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or Jake Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia. Or Finn Jones as Iron Fist.

Or Ben Affleck as Antonio J. Mendez in Argo, ffs. A role practically made for your Pedro Pascal type actor.

Hell, Tom Cruise pretending to be Irish in Far and Away was awful enough just because of the bad accent.

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Iron fist is a white dude in the source material unlike the other examples.

Oh they were there lol.

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[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The argument is always the same. The CHUDS don't want to see black people, women, the gays, etc.

[–] Lurra@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Actually was expecting a Japanese man and woman to choose from.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wait there was a Black samurai? That's fucking awesome! I need to see more media about this

[–] Juice64@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Yasuke’s a playable character in Samurai Warriors 5 As a fan of that game I’m confused to why people are suddenly upset that he exists

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

My guess is its because some numpty on rumble or twitter went on a rant about it recently.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i miss the days when people made video games, and they were good.

I'm not sure why people are expecting the character of the video game to make or break the entire video game.

It's a new assassins creed game, it's probably going to be ass, like the rest of them.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

animal well.

The medium is alive and well.

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[–] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

This is some of the worst discourse I’ve seen. I went to the latest Asmongold video about this topic and asked as many people as I could to explain how a black protagonist is pushing an agenda. Not replies. Guess it is hard to explain without claiming β€œnot historically accurate” or just sounding like a white supremacist.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 5 months ago

I gave up on Far Cry and Watchdogs not because the games were deteriorating with each iteration (they were / are) but because the sexual harrassment ring on which the upper management fed and HR silenced the victims made supporting the company untennable. At least for me.

Since then I've found alternative indie projects that have scratched some of those itches pretty well. I don't play Ubisoft, even those games I already ~~own~~ have licenses for.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

I genuinely do not get why people get so angry about the color of a character's skin in a work of historical FICTION. I dgaf about things being historical accurate in my video games. Does the guy look cool? Yup he sure do. Is the game gonna be good? It's Ubisoft so probably not. But let's assume that it will be for arguments sake.

Why is it so important to you that the character not be black? Assassin's creed as a franchise has been around for like what? Almost two decades now? And in all that time we've basically played as only white characters (with some exceptions). I don't see anything wrong with increased representation in works of art or entertainment. The more representation we see in media for any minority group the less likely it will be for the kids that grow up playing these games to grow up as racist assholes. And if you belong to a minority group, seeing someone with your skin tone represented in media will make you less likely to grow up with internalized self loathing. Like you might if all you see in media is the white dude saving the day.

At the end of the day these are works of entertainment. Their purpose isn't historically accuracy. It's entertainment and escapism. If we can't escape racism in a fucking video game how tf are we supposed to prevent it in real life?

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Dude, these same folks flipped their shit when the default main character in Crackdown was black, way back in 2007. These idiots don't quit. I mean, we're talking about a game where you're a genetically engineered super-cop and had multiple choices of character race but their fragile egos were shattered because the default choice wasn't the white guy.

It's pathetic.

Mind you, I'm sure they were all fine and nodding their heads when Tom Cruise did the whole white savior thing in The Last Samurai.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I know you're not op but I don't really engage with public gamer forums since gamergate. I don't need the idiotic, racist/sexist/whateverist takes. I just want to forgot about the world for a bit and talk to my friends about how cool the pixels looked at that one point in time. I can get that with my friend on discord.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was common knowledge that "retainer" was literally the job description of all samurai... but I guess I should have known that the Weaboo Gamergate Brigade would conveniently ignore actual history.

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