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The Virginia State Police investigator seemed puzzled about what the inmate was describing: “unbearable” conditions at a prison so cold that toilet water would freeze over and inmates were repeatedly treated for hypothermia.

“How do you get hypothermia in a prison?” the investigator asked. “You shouldn’t.”

The exchange, captured on video obtained by The Associated Press, took place during an investigation into the death of Charles Givens, a developmentally disabled inmate at the Marion Correctional Treatment Center, who records show was among those repeatedly hospitalized for hypothermia.

After a special grand jury considered the case but opted not to bring criminal charges, Givens’ sister sued in federal court, alleging her brother was subjected to routine mistreatment, including “cold-water torture,” before he was fatally beaten in 2022.

The lawsuit has raised broader questions about conditions at the southwest Virginia prison, which the grand jury described as “inhumane and deplorable.”

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago (41 children)

Will there ever be a way to convince the American public that prisons are not supposed to be cruel and the justice system shouldn't be about vengeance?

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

But justice is about taking an eye for an eye right? /s

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even that biblical context was about making someone whole. You stole their cow and sold it, they get one of yours. The current American prison system is simply about cruelty and profit.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That makes a little more sense. (the historic pov) but yeah the current system is just about creating a new class of slave labor its got nothing going on for it in terms of rehabilitation. Its increasingly frustrating when other countries have kinda mapped out a model and you just have to transpose it. But we can't have nice things.

also i was being sarcastic in the previous message hence the /s. Sorry.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nothing to be sorry about! I was also venting; hope I didn't come across as too contrary.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh youre good. I just wanted to make sure there was no misunderstanding. And please vent away. Its depressing.

[–] Sidyctism@feddit.de 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You guys are so adorable * . *

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m hearing we should take a dealer’s drugs and drug money, or a car thief’s car, and call it square.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Why stop there.. Take their life as well. Lol /s

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[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Department of Corrections and attorney general’s office previously withheld documents the AP sought under the state’s open-records law related to Givens’ death and inmate complaints about cold temperatures.

I wonder just how many serial killers are employed by the Dept of Corrections?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

It would be easier to list the employees that aren't.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

The AP obtained records showing inmates at Marion, which houses predominantly mentally ill offenders, were hospitalized for hypothermia at least 13 times in three years during cold-weather months

Nothing to see here folks, just people who were too stupid to be a cop torturing mentally ill people under the auspice of state care. Don't worry! nothing will happen to them.

[–] lemmyhavesome@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cruel and unusual punishment.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If it's the norm, can it really be called unusual? 🤔 ^/s^

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

So the usual cruel punishment

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

Concrete floors are usually cooler than the rest of the room. Knock someone out, throw a bucket of water on them, and just let them lay there.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Nah neglect means not caring. This is on purpose, by design, intebtional. This is torture.

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