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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 127 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I read in another thread on a other website that the original poster of this picture had some sort of liver disease and was dying from it, and sorta went YOLO at the chance to pick up a blue ringed octopus. They knew how dangerous it was, but for once the phrase "it will hurt the whole time you're dying" was met with "it already is"

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know someone who gave CPR on someone bitten by one of these.

They lived because of the CPR. They came out of hospital fine, except they were now blind because their eyes were open staring up at the hot summer Aussie sun for the entire time they were getting CPR etc.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago

They came out of hospital fine, except they were now blind

I'm concerned that you don't know what "fine" means. but seriously, I'd probably prefer to be sightless, but still alive too...

[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Besides, how likely is it for that tiny octopus to bite you, unless you are literally trying to get bit?

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 year ago

More than zero

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

the go blue like that when they're planning on biting you. when they are chill they just look rock colours.

It's nice they let you know your death is near though. I imagine it's takes lots of resources to make such toxic venom. so they probs don't want to waste it.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Jay@sh.itjust.works 167 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"The blue-ringed octopus, despite its small size, carries enough venom to kill 26 adult humans within minutes. Their bites are tiny and often painless, with many victims not realizing they have been envenomated until respiratory depression and paralysis begins.[11] No blue-ringed octopus antivenom is available.[12]"

Ok. Then I'd rather have a dog.

[–] qisope@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pretty sure no dog antivenom is available either. I'm just going to get a venomous snake to be safe.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why you start with small bites and build up an immunity. Then work your way up to larger breeds. You think people have chihuahuas because they actually want one?

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago

Best explanation as to why people have chihuahuas I've ever read.

Good call. Dog venom works by sneaking into your heart, and they don't even have to bite you.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is correct. Tetrodotoxin. Like in pufferfish. It blocks nerve signals to muscles causing paralysis. There is no antivenom.

If you got it from eating pufferfish, best you can do is administer activated charcoal to absorb as much as possible that hasn’t already made it into the bloodstream. After that, all you can do is manually run the heart and lungs until it wears off.

So you basically need to be really close to a hospital or clinic, somehow convey what’s happened (while possibly unable to talk or move) and be lucky enough that said hospital has the resources to maybe keep you alive until it is out of your system.

[–] Lord_McAlister@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some more hopeful information about this little bugger:

It's not ACTUALLY venomous. As in it doesn't inject you with a lethal substance, rather, it injects you with a nerve-toxin which disables your ability to open/close your lungs, which kills you. This sounds just as bad, but it means if you can get to a hospital, and make it to a ventilator, you'll be back to normal by the next day.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Venom doesn’t need to be lethal to be venom.

Venom is a toxin produced by an animal that is actively delivered through a wound by means of a bite, sting, or similar action.

Blue Ringed octopuses are venomous.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 1 year ago

@Cypher @Lord_McAlister@lemmy.world....and lethal

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The scary part is that it looks like you won't even feel that you have been bitten, and will know that when you start having problems breathing, and when that happens every second counts.

Looking at the colors, it looks like it was in fight mode. The person holding it could already be dead.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

They can be identified by their yellowish skin and characteristic blue and black rings that change color dramatically when the animal is threatened.

Anything that becomes more visible when you threaten it... you're not the threat.

[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

A video, originally posted on TikTok, of a tourist in Australia handling a blue-ringed octopus went viral in January 2019.

Is that where this picture is from? Or did a second person think it was a good idea?

[–] Omgarm@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But look at the blue dots! It has to be harmless.

[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this is a joke but the blue dots are literally the universal language for “don’t fuck with me”

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

To be fair, there is an alternative that says "I am defenseless and trying to look like a more intimidating thing" in which case the thing would be harmless

[–] jgardner10@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

And the blue rings are a warning, when you can see them, you are really in trouble

[–] NorthWestWind@iusearchlinux.fyi 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Splatoon 3 player base had gone through this 4 months ago

Blue ring octoling, from a Splatoon 3 in-game band

That girllll issss poooiiiisonn

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tiny animals in the sea are the most lethal, apart of this cute octopus also

It can kill in minutes from the shock caused by the pain (Irucandji syndrom, no antivenom)

A bather was pricked in the neck by this cone when he found it on the beach and held it to his ear to listen to the noise of the sea. He died in seconds.´

The Box Jellyfish also can kill in minutes by cardiac arrest, worse, these jellyfish can see and actively attack

[–] Loid@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I don't like the funky and colorful creatures. They are always so clingy! It's like they want you to touch them for the rest of your life.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's going on with the person's skin?

[–] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their hand is half in very clear water.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Wow... That's what happens when you wake up in the middle of the night and start checking Lemmy

[–] reaper_cushions@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you shouldn’t lift aquatic creatures out of the water, ever, but what else is happening in this picture?

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That tiny octopus is one of the deadliest animals on the planet. It has an extremely potent neurotoxin that has no cure/anti-toxin. You often don't even know you've been bitten by one until you can't breathe. By then it's almost guaranteed to be too late. The only way to survive is to be put on a ventilator until the toxin wears off but the chances of getting to one in time is extremely minor.

[–] reaper_cushions@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, it contains TTX. I think cyanide can counteract this particular poison but don’t quote me on that.

Edit: turns out I misremembered and the counteracting poison is Batrachotoxin, which is used by the poison dart frog.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

did he ded?

[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't believe I'm seeing this. Sure hope it's fake.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow. This is like a commandment for aussie kids. Do not. Ever. Fuck around with things you don't recognise at the beach. I didn't pay much heed to many rules but this one seemed like a good idea - even to dipshit child me.

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Do not. Ever. Fuck around with things you don't recognise

FTFY

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago
[–] ComradeR@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Ann Reardon (the australian YouTuber) almost touched one by accident. Luckily, she threw the shell they were in fast enough.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus christ. That's terrifying.

Please don't mess with wild animals in Australia. Just... no.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I know an Australian who is convinced we're all weird for thinking their animals are dangerous when we have moose and bears.