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Centrism is often relative.
Someone who is a 'centrist' between the far-right GOP and the centre-right Dems is probably just a shy Republican.
Someone who is a 'centrist' by the perceptions of Lemmy could be anyone who isn't a devotee of Mao, depending on which part of Lemmy you're talking to.
Totally, when you're in a left wing echo chamber it's easy to get labelled as a centrist or worse solely because you can sometimes see where the right wing is coming from, even if you don't agree with them.
I don't know why there's currently a coordinated attack on anyone who isn't so far left that reality has left them and they're abstaining from voting. It's bizarre.
Basically everyone on this website is to the left of the dems, and is just settling because America's democracy is kinda fucked
Binarism is a sop for people who desperately want to cling to a self-affirming label, but can't come up with any justification better than "the opposition is worse."
Savage.
I tend to avoid anyone that feels compelled to define themselves by a political ideology. It just becomes an identity and the identity becomes more important than anything the ideology was supposed to represent.
You really aren't required to wear your team colors or even have a team. If you have a point- make the point. If any part of your point depends on declaring your political identity- it's not a solid point.
Counterpoint: If my existence as a marginalized individual has already been politicized by conservatives, then I lack the privileged position to simply "Make the point and shut up", which is what you are effectively suggesting. When my identity as a human being (by blood, not beliefs) has been made a political argument, then no I'm sorry, my identity is also political... and that has been forced on me. Nothing about that invalidates the points I have to make to argue for my continued existence.
All I'm saying is, you act like identity is an abstract thing from politics, but for some people it can never be. Just being quiet means they are still people arguing for your death.
Imo, the issue is that political opinions are more complicated than reducing them to a location on a 1-dimensional line.
"everyone has to be a raving lunatic completely committed to following one herd or the other, regardless of what they actually think. Any individual thought must comply with hard party lines"
Is that what this means?
It's Ozma were talking about. It 100% is. They will always sabotage the achievable in favor of unobtainable perfection.
My favorite is "socially liberal but economically conservative", like those things are exclusive of each other
"I hate poor people but I also like weed"
I thought it is more like - "I hate taxes, but I don't mind the gays".
They are the way they mean it. Indivual freedoms such as legal abortions, gay marriage, drug legalization, etc, just not big on a welfare state.
Weed should be legal so I can sell it to the people being crushed by capitalism.
Yeah, it's basically "I'm in favor of a social safety net, but I'm also in favor of starving all social programs of funding" 🤦
i don't think that statement implies that they're mutually exclusive of each other. This has been a long defined standing that people will hold.
I've lost track, who's turn is it tomorrow to post that's same 'meme' tomorrow. Gosh it's just so original and fresh the 75th fine seeing another, "if your centrist your basically a Trumper!".
It always cracks me up when they call Joe Biden the radical left. Republicans haven't got a clue.
Exactly. When they say "radical left Biden" I'm like "I WISH!"
Biden. The guy who wrote the precursor to the patriot act.
I can't find evidence of this but I swear the first time I heard of Dennis Prager he was selling himself as a 'centrist'.
I would call him the moderate wing of the neonazi movement but we both know he'd go full reich if he could get away with it
Maybe if you insult them a few more times they will see the error of their ways and vote for your guy.
Maybe if we prod them to be loud about what their claimed values are their candidate will be less shit.
A long time ago being a centrist or a libertarian just meant you support gun ownership and also weed rather than only one or the other. Seems times have changed.
Lots of card-carrying members of the "enlightened-centrist-that-won't-stand-for-anything-but-will-fall-for-everything" brigade coming out of the woodwork to justify their privilege on here.
Average centrist.
That's the thing... a centrist will never burn the bridges that takes them back to the right.