There is a way to get genuine help from a Linux forum.
Say "Fuck this, I'm going back to Windows".
Don't do anything rash, give me a minute I'm wrapping the command with Tkinter
Two ways, the other is by saying "solved" with a half baked solution that's incorrect.
I guess you could say Linux fanboys' silliness is...
...terminal.
dad jokes this early in the morning (in the east part of the world)
I swear it feels like for a lot of the things I do on Linux there's a GUI app for it, but then if I wanna do something as basic as adjust my fan speed I gotta use the freaking terminal.
Like it's always at the worst possible time.
Edit: I’ve installed a distro on my gaming PC that I really liked, used it on my laptop. Sensors and fans were fully supported. Did not work at all on my PC so I told it to fuck off. It’s just too much of a pain to set up.
I prefer using my scripts, but I understand everyone isn’t insane.
I’ve noticed over the years a LOT of Linux users do no have their system sensors / CPUs setup properly. Mostly missing fan information, missing / incorrect sensors and most importantly improper AMD CPU PSTATE and governors. For example, the past few years I’ve had to ensure I had correct kernel drivers and boot kernels parameters for my AMD 5950x to properly use the correct governor and idle at 500mhz and for correct sensor information and control for my viii dark hero MB.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious. I've been using computers for decades and not once adjusted fan speeds, so that function doesn't seem very basic to me.
There's coreCTRL for AMD and apparently nvidia-setting for Nvidia?
AMD GPUs got more tools due to them being open source, while Nvidia's isn't and you are beholden to Nvidia bothering to implement support, which they often don't.
Also, idk if I would call fan curves that basic, haha. For the vast majority the default curve is sufficient.
This is part of the reason I haven't gone back to Linux for my gaming PC. I had zero desire to try to set a fan curve in the terminal.
Who need GUI apps when you can do these things on CLI:
imcat my-image.pngmpv --vo=tct "https://youtube.com/watch?v=BBJa32lCaaY"browshspt play --name "Your Playlist" --playlist --randomand perhaps many more I'm not currently aware of...
While this is not a serious post I'm going to take it seriously, so here are some of the reasons:
Nobody can easily remember the precise file name and if you don't get the first letters right you're screwed(did I mention capital letters matter?)
Wtf is --vo=tct? No sane person is remembering all of that (same goes for the rest 10000 parameters and options)
Again, waaayyy too many parameters, who remembers their playlist name? There is no autocomplete here, you're on your sad own in your sad little room with your sad little feelings, because there's no one there to tell you the song's precise name, because computers are assholes and don't hate you.
So why GUIs? Because they make computers seem like friendly fellas which actually care about you and give you options, tell you the available functions(without deciphering a 50 pages manual if done well)
If you take it seriously, then at least your complaints should be reasonable, not meme-worthy.
Autocomplete is a standard feature in CLI nowadays, so no need to remember everything.
And parameters usually have names chosen to make the most sense and to be memorable (e.g. vo = video output).
Serious person here.
Can autocomplete fill in a YouTube URL or Spotify playlist name? Can I browse the list of what's available and filter, drill down, poke around according to my whimsy?
Or if I'm accessing a local file, how do I find that one video of my cat named VID-004326.MP4?
Can I autocomplete the parameters themselves, which are betimes lengthy and unwieldy to type out?
Even if it's possible, and I've mastered every arcane parameter necessary to do it, is it really faster / more convenient than doing it through a GUI?
Maybe there are good answers to the above questions—I don't know and would love to find out—but they and many more like them are surely reasonable and far from meme-worthy, or else I'm missing something huge.
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IMO it's not even a Windows vs GNU/Linux debate (although yeah, maybe more of the users of the latter would be familiar with the CLI), it's about using the right tool for the job. Image or video editing? Good luck even starting to do anything without a mouse. Installing something? Yup, even on Windows I'd prefer doing scoop install foobar2000 instead of opening a store app or a website.
And remember kids, if it is a command, you can automate it and never do it again.
Exactly! Takes so much of the pain away. And you know what would be really useful? If those scripts were accessible easily through simple buttons or sliders on which you could click, or something like along those lines.
Terminal is great until you paste a command from an online tutorial and it doesn't do what it is suppose to.
Do su rm -rf / to fix all issues you have
Just for those who are not aware don't do this. This is equivalent to deleting system32.
So...always?
I use CLI daily for git and nano, but it's far from necessary for the average user. I'm not sure why some people want to propagate the idea that Linux is hard when it's just a little different than what most people are used to.
This seems like something a Linux elitist would say
tErMinAL iS mUCh MorE fRieNdLY. gUi is DuMB
Hey, stop bashing linux:)
If there is a well written manual or a wiki im fine with using terminal programs.
But ofc, there's always no documentation available other than a man page.
I think the only reason Windows users are afraid of terminals is that they're not used to them. They're not that bad. Most terminal programs have a -(-)help command that shows you what you can do as well, in case you get stuck.
I do think there is another reason, which is that the Windows CMD is awful. If that's your only reference, I understand not wanting to learn it.
No one is "afraid" of terminals. We just don't have spare time to learn a whole new fucking language.
We just don’t have spare time to learn a whole new fucking language.
well one should always try to consider the amount of time that can be saved, the complexity that is required to establish it and the potential time required to maintain it.
related:
At the current time this seems kind of untrue. There are many GUI Applications in the repos, which provide alternatives or are wrappers for existing CLI applications. - Perfect for people who dont yet feel comfortable working with programms purely in a terminal.
Why do you need a gui for a timer? Just use sleep number && mpv someMusic.mp3
Why do people even use a Desktop Environment, so many GUIs !!!
DEs are bloat anyway
Hello noobs! I'll let you in on a secret. Pros use command line interface (CLI) both on Linux and on Windows for a lot of tasks. You know why? Because it's easier. Be like the pros, choose the easy path, use CLI!
If you're bored, you can visualize a rotating GUI in your mind. It's free and nobody can stop you.
As a Windows Infrastructure admin, I love this one.... and some of the responses. Perfect.
/crys in PowerShell
I used to be a user that was all about the terminal, but then i realized that gui apps have advantages
Shells offer a significantly faster and more powerful way of running programs when you know how to use them. The "helpful" Windows user is kneecapping the noob by offering a shiny but limiting GUI. Once you get a grasp of basic command line tools, you'll wonder why you bothered with pointing and clicking stuff.
I feel like the shell becomes much more complicated when you want to use configs. Or anything other than basic commands. At that point it becomes a pain in the ass, or tedious.
Other than that I agree. Also, GUI file managers are still superior. Sue me.
I still don't get why people like vim. Like sure, I use it to edit config files and stuff that needs sudo permissions, but in all honesty, if I could use any gui for that, like Kate, I wouldn't see any reason for using vim. Why do I need to relearn years how to Ctrl+ f or exiting the editor? buT iT'S FaStEr. Really? You spend how long looking up guides and cheat sheets on how to use it and it's faster? I mean sure, use what you are comfortable with but can you really say it's that much faster than just any text editor out there?
ubuntu unity user: oh yes we do
You can see the characters in the terminal what more do you want?
I want to be attached to them, know their backstory and motivation, ya feel?
I use Arch btw
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