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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Did the DNC just forget this when scheduling their convention?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No, when this happened in the past states made exceptions. Ohio Republicans are just being obstinate right now, just like their nominee.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Relying on the goodwill of republicans to make an exception seems like a poor strategy. This is an unforced error that could have been avoided.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For the last century, it's been commonplace for officials in both parties to make scheduling exceptions. This is quite literally unprecedented.

Of course, everything about the modern Republican party is unprecedented now.

[–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For the last century, it's been commonplace

We said this a ton during Obama's time in office. Look where we are now. Expecting things today to play out like they did in the past just seems extremely naive now.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Expecting things today to play out like they did in the past just seems extremely naive now.

It's a little ironic given that statement of yours is itself naive.

Much of the gov policy enforcement is good faith-based, which is obviously terrible, but what do you suggest though? Do you think the Republicans will go along with adjusting rules to be specific and enforced? They survive in-part due to these flimsy definitions and policies enforced by good faith.

Look how difficult it was just to get these exceptions passed. How the fuck are we going to fix any of that with a literal do-nothing house? Furthermore, what little bandwidth that does exist is undoubtedly being spent shoring up the loose threads that nearly snapped on and around J6.

[–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

You're talking about the Federal level, which has nothing to do with the DNC's current problem in Ohio. They've been running around all year trying to change the order in which the states vote. So far, most all of them have told the DNC to pound sand, including Ohio. This deadline did not spring up out of nowhere, and it's only a problem because of the DNC's poor planning.

Seriously what was the plan? Ignore the deadlines and expect a last-minute exception to be made? I'm not singing the praises of the Ohio GOP, and I agree they're being dicks about this, but who really caused this problem? Ohio didn't set the DNCC date. States run their elections how they want. A federal officer coming in and saying "No, do it this way because we said so" isn't how the this system was intended to function.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They are avoiding it, by holding the early roll call. Which also has the convenient side effect of formalizing the nomination before the convention, eliminating any unpleasantness at the convention itself.

Which shows how useless it is for the Ohio Republicans to be dragging their feet. The Democratic Nominee was always going to be on the ballot in Ohio. All the Republicans are doing is wasting everyone's time, and giving 24-hour news stations more meaningless things to use to fill time.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Which shows how useless it is for the Ohio Republicans to be dragging their feet.

Dragging feet is Ohio Republicans favorite pastime:

  • School funding model ruled unconstitutional? Ohio Republicans (who hold both the legislature and Governors office) simply ignore it for literally 30 years now source
  • Republican drawn Congressional districts ruled gerrymanderred by the Ohio Supreme court requiring redrawing. Ohio Republicans simply draw another gerrymandered version, and sit on it until the election forcing a gerrymandered disctrict map to be used. And the GOP won maintaining control source
  • Republicans violate their own rule to run out-of-ban special election to try to change the rules on State Ballot Referrendum trying to make it too hard to pass with just voter efforts. source
  • After voters get a Reproductive rights constitutional amendment on the ballot, Republican Attorney General change the wording of the language to make it more inflammatory. source
  • Ohio voters successfully amended the state consitution to include the reproductive rights amendment (including legal protections to allow a woman to have an abortion) and the Republican AG is challenging nearly every part of the constitutional amendment. "He slow walks every single constitutional challenge to every single Republican statute still on the books that interferes with abortion access by erecting unnecessary government barriers between a woman and her right to an abortion." source
[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Avoiding a very public protest at the convention by the Uncommitted folks.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

There are only 35 uncommitted delegates so far, vs. 3600+ Biden delegates. I doubt the uncommitted folks will be heard even if they had the normal vote.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmao wow those ten people are going to be very public. I fully expect there to be protests regarding the Palestinian genocide and the Biden Admin's support for Israel, as there should be. Biden is going to he the nominee regardless, because he's the only candidate in the race and has the delegates. Conventions are scripted political theater unless there's a closely contested nomination, that you think there's something more to them belies a fundamental lack of knowledge about this process

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Hey welcome to democratic strategy. Next round of excuses are on their way and should hit your TVs inside the next 6 months. Thanks for following and smash that like button.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 4 months ago

They've been falling into that trap ever since Trump announced. All the stuff that's 'tradition' or 'gentleman's agreement' or even actual laws that didn't bother to codify a punishment turned out to be easily broken without any electoral consequences. And 8 years later they still fucking fail to account for it.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Alabama this cycle as well, although they did pass the exception to allow Biden:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ballot-access-alabama-ohio-2c802f24e4b88a359c84b180f0e363ec

Not that it matters, because Biden will not win either Alabama or Ohio.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

It has ALWAYS been this way, the Republican fascists are just extra desperate to hurt Biden and to get back for the whole insurrection disqualifying the wannabe mango Mussolini

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Anyone think maybe we shouldn't just put the people who can bundle the most donations in charge of the only other political party that's a current valid option besides full blown fascism?

There's no denying they're good at getting money from the wealthy, they just have zero idea how to run a political party or campaign...

Biden's been spending millions while trumps going thru a trial and they can't get the numbers to budge.

Some things you can't fix by throwing dollars at.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

There’s no denying they’re good at getting money from the wealthy, they just have zero idea how to run a political party or campaign…

They are running the political party and campaign exactly the way those wealthy donors want them to.

[–] InvisibleHat@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

I bet we’ll hear a lot of conspiracies about this.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If I were on SCOTUS I'd tell some PAC to sue and then I'd just automatically hear the case and then I'd rule the Ohio law unconstitutional, because it flies in the face of how a moron thinks our election system goes 🙄

Edit: Down votes and no replies? I guess I dropped my /s