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Fuck antivaxxers, unless there's a demonstrated prior allergic reaction these fuckers should pay an extra tax just for being alive.
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I wonder how many of the 10% would be unaffected if the rest had gotten vaccines
Solid herd immunity query.
Get your jabs people.
I'm so happy there is a chickenpox vaccine! I was at the edge of that, getting it before it was available. It was hell.
It was more hell for my mother who had never gotten chickenpox as a child. So had it as an adult. Agony! And have to deal with sick twins!
Make vaccines obligatory. Take people kicking and screaming if you have to, don't care. The entire bullshit line "but muh rights" has nothing to do with this, you don't have the right to make the world a worse place, you don't have the right to risk other people's lives.
Make vaccines obligatory, exceptions only for those that have real and supported medical reasons like auto immune diseases.
If you don't, you get fine, jailed, and vaccinated anyway.
Ah, that feels good writing that down.
They can have their rights, just in this case they have the right to go somewhere else and not endanger our kids!
Going somewhere else won't solve the issue. Vaccinate, period, end of discussion
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There seems to be a lot of morons in NYC.
If 10% of the people living in NYC were morons, it would be more than the populations of five states.
always has been
Back in my day we got chickenpox and we liked it.
Back in my day, our parents made us get it, and it suckd pretty bad.
Yup. You got to suffer and itch for a week while bathing in oatmeal and coating yourself in calamine lotion.
Sooo much calamine lotion.
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Makes me feel like a relic that there was no vaccine for it when I was a kid. "Back in my day there was no vaccine for polio!"
Back in my day our parents had parties for chicken pox. The older you get, the worse it is.
There was no vaccine when I was a child.
I got it from my sister as a kid. I felt fine. She is six years older and was pretty bad with it.
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I didn't like it. 0/10 would not recommend.
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My vaccination for chickenpox was being forced to hang out with kids that had chickenpox so I, too, would get chickenpox.
Shit sucked. I still have scars on my arms from that shit.
Meanwhile I got vaccinated and one day I went to one of those "chickenpox sharing parties" and all the kids got it except for me, so the vaccine definitely works lol
As someone from a part of the world where the medical consensus is against mass vaccination against chickenpox, it's weird to see it discussed in the same terms as Measles or COVID.
I got my youngest jabbed for it because lockdown meant they didn't get it as a toddler like most kids I knew of growing up, when it's usually an irritating but short illness and I was concerned they might somehow make it to adulthood without encountering it, when it actually becomes a lot more harmful.
That was unfounded, since it's going round all the young uns right now. Still, we're both glad they won't have to experience the itchy spots, although jealousy over friends who had a few days off school was expressed.
I was curious what the arguments against mass chicken pox vaccination are, and it seems the thinking is changing, at least in the UK.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240229-why-dont-some-countries-vaccinate-against-chickenpox
What I still don't understand though is if the argument against mass vaccinating children is that sick children may effectively act as a booster for adults, why not just recommend an actual booster for adults?
My understanding is , besides cost, the virus is just so contagious, that it's an all or nothing proposal.
Vaccination is always better for the individual, but for the "herd" it's actually worse unless you can get almost everyone at once. That would have been hard enough before that arsehole Wakefield and even moreso now.
But it's a numbers game. Our doctors looked at the statistics and made a recommendation when the vaccine became available, but now there is actual data on a generation of it's use in other countries to add to that analysis. Maybe that will lead to a change in policy, maybe it will just affirm it. If a change is deemed to be worth it in the long run, the transition period would be difficult.
Wasn't chickenpox one of the gelding diseases, just like measles? Serves those Antivaxxers well.
Sure, serves them, but what about the vaccinated people who were infected because of them?
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Thankfully those who got the vaccine are mostly protected. Sadly it's always the children who suffer from their shitty parents. Looking at it optimistically, this is a small part of the population.
Humanity: through cooperation and science we have destroyed a problem. The foe that held dominance over us is dead at our feet.
Also Humanity: let's find a way to bring back that problem for reasons that are not clear to us.
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