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[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I've been running a galaxy S9 for years and have never run into a bottleneck with it.

Why do y'all keep needing more and more power packed into your phones? It doesn't make any sense to me.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Why do you guys simply believe things should get better?"

That is how I read this. More power, more efficiency, better tech is not a bad thing to want.

Just because you want to hold on to a 5 year old phone doesn't mean someone else doesn't at least want to see efficiency in our pockets get better for the value we spend on them.

Imagine if someone said, I have dial up internet. Why are you guys constantly wanting faster Internet speeds.

It's okay to want things to get better. You should not have the mentality of, "it's just good enough."

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

How is this better value? I have a S9+, still full day battery and runs everything.

How is buying a new phone 'value'. What value does this bring exactly? You bring up dialup as a compassion. Well, modern connections don't tie up the phone line and are magnitudes faster (my Internet is 17,857x faster than dialup).

What tangible thing has been added to Mobile phones in the last 5 years? 10 years? What real value. Pretty sure my phone has more features than any 'modern' new phone.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The big reason is that you're choosing to spend several hundred dollars to put your still perfectly performant phone in a land fill so you can have a percentage or two more performance.

Your dial up comparison is not really a fair comparison, either. The S9 is not dialup in comparison to Samsung's new galaxy phones. You'd have to go down to like a BlackBerry or a Nokia flip phone to have that comparison make sense.

[–] Nerdulous@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's compare the S9 to the S23.

The S23 has Wi-Fi 6E support, Bluetooth 5.3 support, twice as much base storage and RAM, 5G support, an in display ultrasonic fingerprint sensor, 3 high resolution cameras, 120hz refresh rate, twice as fast internal storage, a 33% larger battery, a much newer version of Android and to top it off a processor that's roughly 3X as powerful as the S9.

So to me it might not be fair to call the S9 dialup but I would say a comparison between broadband and fiber is pretty accurate. At the very least the other features are worth upgrading for if not the speed. Now I suppose the S9 is still a perfectly good phone to be used as just a phone but these things are really portable computers and the increase in processing power becomes tremendous in a short period of time.

[–] jocz@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does your home router support WiFi 6e? your accessories BT 5.3? Your phone carrier stable 5g?

I can understand the battery and the screen improvement. But I also don't think it's as drastic as you claim.

This is an android enthusiast community. For a lot of people here the answers to that are going to be yes, yes and yes.

I think its more about the power efficiency. Samsung's exynos line as well as their few latest samsung foundry nodes are not known for being very power efficient, so I think people were holding for the Pixel 9 with a custom TSMC manufactured chip in hopes of it consuming less power and outputting less heat

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because I wanted a foldy boi.

That said, I plan on hanging on to my Z Fold 3 for at least the next half decade.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

But I need to run a web browser at Mach Chicken so I can justify tossing a perfectly good phone for a new $1000 phone.

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[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

The only thing i expect for Google Pixels is for them to have a clean Android install, i couldn't care less if it's hardware was equivalent to my low end Motorola.

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You should though. I have a Pixel 7 Pro. I've seen all the reviews/tests showing how bad of a chip it is. But in day to day use it's fast snappy and pretty good.

it does however warm the device a lot and warmth = battery loss.

Tensor G1 and G2 would probably be absolutely fine if fabbed on TSMC.

[–] somegadgetguy@lemdro.id 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

I don't have issues with the radios personally (I did on my Pixel 6)

[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine is borderline unusable compared to my pixel 5.

Is it summer and am I outdoors? Phone will shutdown due to overheating.

Am I using Google maps and the phone is mounted in direct sunlight? It will throttle dark mode to manage overheating .

Have I been using the phone throughout the day? It needs to be charged before I leave work.

Honestly I'd say my p7p is the worst phone I've had in a long time, it's hard to go back without considering how phones were for their time, but my instinct is that the last time I had a phone this comparably bad it was a Samsung Galaxy s3.

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. Mine gets warm but never had anything throttle

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[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

And an unlockable bootloader.

Decent CPU and RAM.

High rate screen

Unlockable bootloader

SD card

Removable battery.

Such a phone would be an instant buy for me, but nobody wants to make them

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have pixel 5 and 6. I got tired of my six only lasting half a day without needing a charge so I switched back to the pixel 5 with lineage os. I can routinely get 2 days worth of normal use on a single charge plus I prefer the smaller form factor. An SD slot would be nice, I've got 100+gb of FLAC music on my phone.

[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd trade my pixel 7 pro back for my old 5 in a heartbeat (were it not destroyed). Besides the better form factor and better android 11 UI on the pixel 5, which are admittedly subjective, the pixel 5 can do several things the pixel 7 pro cannot:

  • be used outdoors in summer (or in direct sunlight anytime),

  • get a through a full day without having to charge,

  • includes a better fingerprint sensor (more reliable, has capacitive gesture, doesn't spit out blinding light, more ergonomic position),

  • includes a far better screen (curved edges with persistent glare are the literal worst - not to mention how breakable they are).

  • be placed on a surface without a case and without sliding around on some stupid frictionless and delicate glass back panel.

The Galaxy S5 is still ahead of its time today. Minus high refresh rate because 60hz was the standard in 2014, but it also had a headphone jack and heart rate sensor built in as well.

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I used to buy it and root right away, but always having to dance around safetynet was a pain. havent been rooted in a while :l

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[–] kib48@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wasn't it the Pixel 10 that was gonna use TSMC and Google's fully custom design instead of recycled Exynos?

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah. This isn't news.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't we already know that the 2025 Pixel will be TSMC and not before?

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

We don't know anything. I don't see how Google is going to get TSMC fab time though. Unless the purchased it so far back for that time. They are way to small or maybe they'll be on an older node and no the cutting edge on at that time.

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