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Linkedin is getting pretty spammy lately. Is there any equivalent platform (mature or otherwise) that is a clone/competitor/etc...? I really dont want to get premium just to message people. Image is the post, on Linkedin, someone who I agree with.
LinkedIn kinda works because of the size. Federated communities are generally smaller. I wouldn’t use one to find a job or to network
You don't need a billion users to be an effective network. I once got a part time job writing a program for the government from posting on a BBS that had a few hundred users.
Agreed.
I think that just starting with networking might be the way to go. I mean if someone wants to a market a fedi alternative, they would have a huge advantage on software developers, server hosters, and generally our small communities.
And probably no one else
Couldn't you say that about almost all social media? I mean a big part of why reddit is useful is just due to the sheer number of users available to answer questions and such.
Sure but when you’re looking for a job/networking, you really need people
Nah, I disagree, respectfully. What you espouse is what we’ve been taught. One doesn’t need a hundred jobs, or to fill out a thousand job applications. One needs a job that fulfills one’s financial and other needs. Bosses need a hundred applicants per job, or think that they do, so they can choose the best one. Both sides would be better served by not wasting their efforts and getting to the best match for their separate and overlapping needs.
Networking doesn’t mean applying for jobs? Not sure what you’re getting at
LinkedIn to me is just a platform where I go to get spammed by recruiters or watch middle managers passionately kiss corporate ass with motivational posts about how brilliant work is or how teamwork is so great.
It's also a place where I add work connections that I otherwise wouldn't send a Facebook friend request to.
On the microblogging side of the fedi, "fedihire" and "jobalert" hashtags seem to be frequently used for job postings, and "getfedihired" and "jobsearch" for those posting that they are looking.
The second paragraph in the image answers the question in the first paragraph.
I get occasional spam messages on LinkedIn from people that paid to spam me. It's annoying, but not a big deal. I found a new job by keeping track of companies posts on LinkedIn. I tried their free premium option when I was job hunting but it was a waste of time.
Just post your resume here.
why stop there? hand it out to people in the street
Why stop there? Tattoo it on your forehead.
Why stop there? Emblazon it onto the irises of passersby with a high-powered laser, so it's scarred into their vision permanently.
Why stop there? Broadcast it in every frequency into outer space.
It's a sales website for my labor. Free advertising for me as the provider. I look for work and have resumes in other markets as well but why skip something so basic? And with the exception of the verification nonsense with my ID, everything told them isn't just factual information, it's stuff I want known, the opposite private information.
My recollection is that this was something Evan Prodromou (an inventor of ActivityPub) was looking into. There does not seem to be a federated alternative.
Imagine using LinkedIn in 2024. 🤣
What are you using instead?
So, like, inherent to your question is an assumption that LinkedIn is for "something", as in, it fulfills some need.
And I'm just not quite sure that it does. Tbh, if I am hiring and I find out you are one of "those" people who are chronically on LinkedIn, I would seriously considering not hiring you, precisely because of that.
Its not clear to me what, if any, role linked in fills beyond keeping a roladex of people I've worked with but would never want to connect with otherwise. Even then I only keep a profile because of the assumption that I should. Its not clear to me thats a good assumption, because I still don't see what need I have that LinkedIn is filling that a list of names and e-mails couldn't also fill.
I think sane people likely only use LinkedIn as a pseudo-resume, and for the job search feature.
For better or worse, I'd say 95% of the application forms in my industry ask if you have a profile. And the job search feature is amazing for quickly perusing reqs you might be interested in and compiling application data, to try to give yourself an edge.
The "social" (used very loosely) portion I have no personal interest in, and find it to be populated mostly by grindpilled narcissists.
grindpilled narcissists.
Thats a great term, but I think we need a term for the perputally-on-linkedIn "influencer" types.
Case in point:
There's no way that's not a troll.
The subreddit making fun of them was called r/linkedinlunatics , and I always felt that was appropriate.
I have a LinkedIn account and post nothing, just the resume. It got me all my jobs easily for more that 15 years. You can hate it and you would be right since it’s a shitty social thing, but it brought me connections to people who are not close to me.
Also all recruiters use it so it’s not something that I can avoid or shun.
Sounds like you are either not the target market or have no idea how to use LinkedIn. Properly used, you as a candidate have an arsenal of info you wouldn’t otherwise have, and the same for the company who can see your posts, your connections, your job history. It’s professional Facebook, all the grownups use it and it’s not just about connecting with people you don’t care about.
This is about building connections you can use later in life. Trust me, connect with that fuckwit John from sales, cause in 5 years he’ll be the guy that can connect you with the recruiter at the company you’ve applied with. You don’t need to like him or be best friends. This is business, not the playground.
Nothing online, paper copies and friends I've made along the way.
This is business myspace and I don't wish to support it.
But chiefly, like the issues highlighted by OP and their serious data leaks in the past.
I simply don't want my career to depend on a central repository managed by private commercialized interests.
Serius question: what industry are you in?
I mean, it works for me. But I'm not one of those people that posts on it, recruiters just contact me on it and sometimes they have jobs that are actually relevant.
