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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml to c/vegan@lemmy.world

Do you guys have good resources on how to feed your dog vegan?

There are a lot of pages online that simply say "consult an advisor" who will calculate what your dog needs. I'm not bad in maths, I could calculate it myself if I'd knew what the dog needs. I can look into commercial dog food ingrediants but there are declarations like "minerals" without any further specificiations. Moreover, I eat a huge variety in differrent vegetables and food in general, yet my dog shall always eat the same according to vegan complete feed. Moreover, I can not properly judge whether a feed is good because the information is missing.

Where does the nutritionist get his information from? There must be someone who has studied the needs of a dog based on size and breed and created a formula such that you can calculate the servings.

I've looked into books on amazon and the comments are horrible. There's nothing on libgen and google scholar doesn't yield appropriate results.

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[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Damn this post got chewed up hard despite being on a vegan community

[-] konomikitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

Overall, it seems the jury is still out on whether feeding our carnivorous four-legged friends vegan diets is actually safe. What we can be certain about is that both strong pro- or anti vegan pet feeding arguments are potentially misguided, and not backed by evidence. For now, owners committed to feeding their pets a vegan diet should take a cautious approach. Use a complete and balanced commercial vegan diet formulation, and schedule regular health checks with a veterinarian.

There is an urgent need for large-scale population-based studies to further investigate this question, with a particular focus on assessing the dietary aspects cited to be of particular concern, e.g., taurine and folate. For guardians wishing to feed their pets vegan diets at the current time, based on the available evidence it is recommended that commercially produced vegan diets are used since these are less likely to lead to nutrient imbalances.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

"In the few studies that measured health directly through examining the animals or running laboratory tests, there was little evidence of adverse health impacts from vegan pet diets. Nutrient levels were generally within normal range, no heart or eye abnormalities were detected, and body and coat condition were normal."

"However, it’s important to note these studies often involved low numbers of animals, with vegan diets only being fed to animals for a few weeks – so deficiency may not have had time to develop. Furthermore, the study designs were often ones considered less reliable in evidence-based practice, for example with no control groups used as a comparison."

"For now, owners committed to feeding their pets a vegan diet should take a cautious approach. Use a complete and balanced commercial vegan diet formulation, and schedule regular health checks with a veterinarian."

https://theconversation.com/are-vegan-pet-diets-as-unhealthy-as-theyre-claimed-to-be-heres-what-the-evidence-says-197409

For me personally I wouldn't try to keep a dog and especially a cat on a vegan diet until there's more robust evidence to say that it would be safe to do so.

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[-] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah yes, the carnists coming into the comments in good faith ™️ to explain how the vegans are actually animal abusers never ceases to amaze me! Please kindly continue commenting so that you can be permanently banned from the community!

Edit: Also, OP getting reported twice for "animal abuse"... seriously the moderator reports are all carnists reporting vegans on the vegan community 🤯

[-] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

vegan dog food exists, don't listen to the carnists here. the technology is evolving and people are in denial

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thanks!

At first I thought people were downvoting because I mentioned libgen but then the first comments appeared and I quickly understood that there's a lack of information. I didn't know that it was that bad prior to this thread.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago

Surprising misinformation here. What happened?

Dogs and cats can be healthy vegans. But you do need to plan their nutrition if you cook yourself

[-] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

What happened?

I went to bed and didn't lock the post. I'm the only active mod and my timezone seems to make it so that I am sleeping during these kinds of posts.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not sure we should lock posts. Dude had a legitimate question.

Unless we just add this info to the sidebar?

[-] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

We shouldn't have to lock posts. I've appointed new mods such that there shouldn't be any issues when I'm not watching.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not 100% certain, but I think if you contact a food company they should be able to provide that info?

https://petfoodshop.com/collections/for-dogs/products/gourmet-fondue-dog-kibble?variant=44655458124060 evolution dog food for example has the guaranteed analyses, ingredients, and food amounts based on dog size on the label in one of the pictures

As far as sources on the ideal amounts of different minerals to cross reference with the guaranteed analyses, I'm not sure, sorry I couldn't be more help

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you! No worries, everything helps :) My knowledge has impact on many dogs each year, I won't quickly jump to conclusions.

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