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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 119 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I predict Elon pulling an illegal stunt & getting busted in reaction to this.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 125 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I predict him pulling an illegal stunt and getting off scot-free because he's wealthy and has aligned himself with the christofascist party that doesn't support the rule being used against its own.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reality shows that Tesla gets hit with fines & judgments all the time.

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's the part of the point of the comment you are replying to. The fines are neither a deterrent nor an inconvenience to those wealthy enough to cover the cost. They use their money, power, and influence to continue to violate law without any other consequences other than pulling out their checkbook. The fines are meaningless to people that wealthy.

[–] 108@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah all those fine really hurt one of the richest men in the world.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, so what you want is for union busting to be a criminal offense instead of a civil one.

I can get behind that.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, he could spend some time in jail for contempt of court if he does something awful…

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Usually only for poors

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Instead of picketing the streets and striking their jobs, they should try picketing Musk and striking him in the head

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah. He drinks his own Kool-aid and sees himself as some unstoppable titan, when the reality is he's just an egotistical fancy lad.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is an unstoppable titan, but that's mostly due to his propensity to constantly cheat the system.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

And he always uses the same cheatcode: BLOODEMERALDHEIR

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I predict he fires everyone and hires people on H1B visas using a contractor.

Edit: Even if the NLRB forces him to recognize the union he can just pull a Starbucks and refuse to negotiate. Meanwhile he can drag out every wrongful termination suite and still hire people on H1B visas and save who knows how much doing so.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say Amazon and then FedEx, but I'm cool with unionizing Tesla

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You'd be surprised at how anti-union many Amazon corp workers are, which is hilarious given how fucking shit it can be.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He’s gonna try to fire his entire workforce.

I’m sure the NLRB will have something to say.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

Let him fire the whole workforce, that will set back Tesla years, they may never recover. I wish the workers the best.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Didn't he already try that at twitter and had to backpedal? They weren't even trying to unionize in that case.

[–] onionbaggage@lemmynsfw.com 43 points 1 year ago (17 children)

He'll close Tesla completely before he allows this. So win win

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doubtful the rest of the Board of Directors would vote yes on that motion. He only owns like 27% of Tesla. If people wanted to unionize, bet you he wouldn't even close down 1 factory. He'll just double down on his anti-democratic anti-worker rhetoric.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He's still by and large the majority shareholder compared to anyone on the board, and they're all basically his puppets. They're all propped up by him and sit on the boards of his other companies, so they really can't vote against him, lest they incur the wrath of the Musk.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Are you a Ford/GM investor by any chance?

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

This is the way. I wish software engineers would do the same.

[–] skellener@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Sounds good! 👍

[–] RickTofu@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow, what an interesting technology this is!

The Guardian opinion page is, in fact, the most authoritative source for technology news in the world

[–] dopeshark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The current strike, the first in UAW history to target all of the big three simultaneously, is to a large degree an attempt to ensure that “shared prosperity” persists as a genuine thing in the profitable auto industry.

The fact that unionized workers have higher job satisfaction, lower turnover and a better quality of life doesn’t mean much to the balance sheet-obsessed corporate executives who sit at the bargaining table.

Tesla already pays its workers significantly less than the big three, and as long as Musk has no union to answer to, he will sit back and savor a UAW win against his competitors that widens that gap.

This is exactly what auto companies are trying to do every time they move a factory into a poor, anti-union southern state, where they can run it without any pesky interference from anyone trying to empower the people working the line.

What we cannot have, in the long term, is a situation in which the world’s richest conspiracy-addled Twitter addict uses the UAW’s gains at the Big Three as a chance to increase his market share by sticking it to his own underpaid non-union workforce.

The public, the politicians and every Tesla owner who would prefer not to be complicit in Gilded Age-style plutocratic inequality all need to lean on the big billionaire baby who can’t imagine having to share.


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[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe this may be one of the few times other car manufacturers would lobby the government in favor of unions, since they see Tesla as having an unfair advantage that hurts their bottom line.

[–] Jonna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My experience says that they'd point at non union competition as an excuse to say no to union demands in negotiations.

[–] Kofu@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Not sorry, Elon is poes.

[–] Fafner@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry, not sorry.

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Are they forming a technology union? Otherwise I think this should be in news.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe he'll take his ball and go home.

[–] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think he will go home before he finds those marbles thst he lost

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