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Imagine if Biden with his newfound immunity decomissions the entire Supreme Court and raids it with military force just for the sake of tragic irony
Everyone seems to be missing the "in an official capacity" clause of the ruling. That is intended to force each of these cases to the supreme court, allowing them to rule what is and isn't official capacity. Meaning, they can simply rule that Biden didn't act in an official capacity and is not immune. The ruling is even more sinister than it seems on the surface.
He can make it official. He can make it as official as it gets. He can literally publicly sign this, in his office, with the press. Just because the constitution doesn't explicitly say he can do it doesn't mean it's unofficial. The constitution barely mentions what authorities the president does and doesn't have in the first place.
Its going to be hard to rule against the president after you been killed by the president.
This should scare the shit out of everyone.
Biden can do this now.
Except when the terms of what an official act is not defined, the Supreme Court gets to decide, after the fact.
I've been thinking about this a bit, I'm not sure it's been considered and I may be going out on a random tangent...
Isn't this whole 'immunity' decision just another power grab, or rather further cementing of their power, by SCOTUS? Think about it. They're essentially the arbiter of 'right' and 'wrong' now, as there's no further avenue of appeal save for amending the U.S. Constitution.
Put aside the vagueness of 'official' vs. 'unofficial' acts for a moment.
Trump did something definitely illegal, and Trump argues was 'official', like his classified records case. Immune.
Biden did something questionably legal yet unofficial, such as forgetfully retaining classified documents after his tenure as VP (which he immediately returned). Supreme Court decides 'not immune', and some idiot decides to prosecute.
Trump might end up as a king, but the conservative majority of SCOTUS are the kingmakers and protectors.
Eh. Not if Biden just says “no. Fuck you. That was an official act.” And then just categorically ignore the court. Which is precisely what Trump would do if presented with a mirrored version of the situation.
Yet somehow Biden is powerless to stop him. 🤔
Are you hoping that Biden now sets a precedent by using his newfound king powers to assassinate his opponent? I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time. Biden using this “the president/king can do whatever he wants” would lead to an immediate civil war
What?! No! This is like a riddle. You assassinate the Supreme court first, THEN pack the court. Then have the new Supreme Court strip the presidency of these new powers.
The time for a president to not act like a king was before a corrupt court awarded the powers of a king to a president. The only way to turn it back now is for a non-corrupt king to break the corrupt court and then divest himself of powers before a corrupt king ascends to the throne.
That seems logical, but can we try wishful thinking first?
Weird how if Biden uses any of the power he has to stop Trump from becoming Fuhrer then it will cause a civil war, but when Trump actually uses that power to become Fuhrer he will face no obstacles.
It will still cause a civil war. Also, that was a wild edit from “you’ll fucking wish Biden assassinated Trump”
I changed my mind about what I wanted to say, but was I wrong?
EDIT And I changed my mind again. If Trump is so dangerous, the only way to really stop him is for Biden to win decisively. Instead, he's behind in fucking New Jersey in the latest polls. If he wins it'll be razor thin, maybe only by the electoral college or a few counties, and then the fascist Supreme Court will give it to Trump anyway. Lose/lose, at least if Biden does something really funny before he resigns he could make sure Trump can't become fuhrer.
The forces that produced Trump remain and will birth a new "strong man" for the masses to get behind, and the GOP does another attempt for Christian fascism.
And liberals can't actually confront those forces, because some of those forces are the ones who donate to them. Yeah, I get it.
I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time.
I mean, 2020 happened, he lost in a fair election. He did do crimes that should have landed him jail.
Now what? You’re saying it’s gonna happen this time?
As if that’s not gonna happen when Trump uses said powers? Indecisiveness will doom America. Act! The Heritage foundation, Trump, and the Republicans do. They ask for forgiveness, maybe, but not permission.
Indecisiveness = not assassinating the opponent?
America is doomed. Now both sides are calling for their chosen king to execute the other king. The experiment is over, hyper capitalism disguised as theology won. I want to vote for my chosen president in this election. This thread is telling me I should support my king executing the other king. Even if he gives up that power right after said execution, the president has made a precedent that the “checks and balances” are broken.
My prediction is that if an execution / forceful power grab is to happen, China will immediately invade the Phillipines and Taiwan, seeing the instability of the US, possibly Japan right after, since our new king will be too busy with the civil war or dismantling the government.
After that NATO and the EU will remove the US from any seat we have during said civil war, as we are no longer a democratic state.
The US arms companies will move to supplying the civil war in addition to just pumping Israel full of guns, maybe Russia too since it’s profitable and what even is regulation at this point.
By the time the US does stabilize, we’re a corporatocracy, as the only things left with real buying power are our tech companies and arms manufacturers, which at this point have their own mercenary security to defend against potential profit loss or have moved to other nations (Apple’s risk management division absolutely has these papers and plans drawn up seeing the political climate)
Canada will absolutely close its borders, and probably will be a hotbed of attempted immigration, ironically their right wing leaning government fighting the effects of our right wing government.
But yeah, we should yell at our king to assassinate the other potential king, instead of organizing, donating, campaigning and voting
Yes. Pretty much. Exactly. The alternative is Trump. So, yeah. Glad someone else recognizes America as we knew it is over.
You know the thought experiment where you go back in time and kill Hitler? We’re there. Take out Hitler.
The alternative is to do what Weimar Germany did and pretend it’s not happening, or, it won’t be that bad.
Learn from history.
Hell no, this "When they go low, we go high, bullshit!" is why Roe Vs. Wade was overturned and if we continue that nonsense it will be why Gay Marriage is overturned.
Does anyone else just not bother reading articles when they see it’s from The Daily Beast? I just don’t have the energy to deal with their paywall.
There wasn't one this time
I feel like their paywall has gotten more strict recently. I used to almost never get them (edit: on my pc with an adblocker. I did get them on mobile but now I’m seeing them on my pc too)