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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Something I got from Spoony which I really liked:

"There is nothing there." -> "You don't see/perceive anything."

Even if there isn't something there, keep the players on the edge and guessing how good their skill worked. And it makes it just a little bit less gamey if the character doesn't have some divine insight that there really is nothing there instead of deciding that their skills just show that there is nothing there and be happy with that - or not.

Of course, extend that to everything. Pull away from the facts of the game and put more ambiguous language in.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I also like misdirection that doesn't result in anything.

"And where are you standing right now?" - "Ok, just checking."

After insight check on an honest npc: "As far as you can tell, he's telling the truth"

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The door seems normal to you."

players proceed to analyze the door for an hour, not realizing if they take the stairs slightly to the left, they'll be taken to the treasure room they're looking for

I've gotten impatient before and snapped "the door rots away from the time you've spent arguing and falls open" which just sparked a few minutes of debating whether the building is sentient and will eat them if they enter the door.

Haha, you just can't win.

[–] XanXic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk this is ambiguous stuff is how you can waste an hour with your players ripping everything off the walls because they think you being unclear is a signifier of something. Like you have to be more clear than ambiguous over all because they are playing a game and unless they are checked out will drill down into it. Maybe you don't mind them wasting an hour investigating a pointless room or doing everything they can on an object because you were vague about it but it's not rewarding for players. Like being vague about a rock is going to have any player take it with them compared to saying "it's just a rock." Maybe you can take those moments and make memories from improv'ing with them but itll get exhausting for both sides after awhile.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The chair in Critical Roll. :D

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It's handy because you can change your mind and retcon something into the scene if necessary.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 45 points 1 year ago

player rolls perception

DM: "you smell the distinct smell of gas building in the cave."

Player: "I cast fireball."

DM: "Alriiiiight... As the sparks ignite in your hand, the gas explodes, causing a cave in and burying the entire party under a mountain of rock. Congratulations, you are dead."

Player: "Why didn't you stop me?!"

DM: "You failed your wisdom check, dumbass."

[–] Deadlytosty@feddit.nl 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate it when the "and this is where we end the session for tonight" part happens 10 minutes in... once had a high level party teleport to the complete opposite side of the map 10 minutes after starting... That is when I learned what high level really meant.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had a 15 minute session once because I offhandedly gave my players a foldable boat like 15 sessions before. I had intended for them to have to cross a mountain range controlled by Dwarfs who'd ask them to assist with a dragon hunt in exchange for passage.

But instead? Nah, they use boat.

[–] akincisor@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why, who would believe it? There just happened to be merpeople who has a dragon problem in the sea!

[–] BustlingChungus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Everybody has a dragon problem round ‘ere!

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

I had my players once fall into a giant underground lake that was home to a Dragon Turtle. The intent was that they would have to fend off the best while trying to get ashore because they were too low level to actually defeat it.

One of my players just so happened to have a Feather Token for a Swan Boat, which they used to trivialize the encounter and get to shore before the monster could reach them.

The only reason she had the Token was because I had given them all a few thousand gold to buy magic items with at character creation, and she had decided to buy a bunch of random consumables instead of the normal +1 weapons and armour. And the best part was that she was a very new player and probably didn't buy the Token with any actual consideration.

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I have used all of these can confirm

[–] Marchioness@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

Instead of "that won't work" say "you can certainly try"

[–] Thebazilly@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 year ago

Don't put this out there, I can't let my players see this!

[–] callyral@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i was looking at the "all" tab and didn't see the community name so i thought DM stood for "direct message" and was quite confused

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The direct messages you receive aren't like this too?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

… and that’s where we’ll end our session!

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to pee I have to pee I have to pee I have to pee

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And that's where we'll end our session!

...

I have to pee.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite saying is that "you find no traps" ≠ "there are no traps." Or more in line with this meme, "there's probably a trap here somewhere but I'm not gonna tell you what the DC actually is."

[–] ferret@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

“You do not find the trap.” (regardless of actual presence of a trap) if you're a chaotic DM.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Say: "Interesting, why don't you roll STAT and see?" Mean: "I have no idea, I'm improvising everything, why don't you roll and we'll see?"

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Are you okay? This is the fifth time you went to the bathroom this session."

Hydration is just important to me