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CNN senior data reporter Harry Enten breaks down the numbers around JD Vance since his announcement as Donald Trump's vice presidential pick.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago

JD Vance is the posterboy for all the worst parts of his generation.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What about Palin? I'm sure she gave an initial boost, but isn't she thought to have cost the election?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But she was very popular for the first few weeks. She could appeal to what became the MAGA party of her party. She was a woman and a mother, which could attract some conservative Hillary supporters.

If she was somewhat competent, the election would have been a lot closer.

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I believe it was the Tea Party. Man, haven't thought about that in a long time.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The tea party became the maga movement.

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

Right, that's what I'm saying

[–] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Closer, but also, everyone was sick of the Republican bullshit as Bush was on his way out and the economy was collapsing. McCain had a really hard sell.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

McCain was such a strange thing. For years he had a comparatively good reputation on the left. Like, he seemed like the reasonable Republican. Then he goes to try to get elected president, picks up a Tea Party running mate, and pushes hard to the right. It was a bit disorienting.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah. I still see Obama winning, but not by as large of a blowout that it was.

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Like HobbitFoot said, she was actually popular at first. I think people liked that folksy charm that she brought ("you betcha!") She has some charisma. Not saying it worked on everybody; I was not a fan, to say the least. But I can see it. And people here always like the idea of their leaders being someone you can have a beer with. Not saying someone couldn't have had a beer with John McCain, but I think with Palin, it was easier to envision.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 7 points 5 months ago

Oh, she has charisma and confidence, like trump. Its just misguided. People saw through it and SNL skits destroyed her as she appeared stupid and everything she said after that reinforced the stupidity not the folksy.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago
[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

People seem to forget Admiral James Stockdale. SNL represented the public view of that decision the best.