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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 51 points 3 months ago (27 children)

'richest country in the world'; cant afford to help humans at their doorstep

uh huh.

these conservatives are either malicious, ignorant or both. its weird talking to them. so many are so casual about the cruelty they support

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

It seems clear to me that it's both and the cruelty is the point. Remember this lady?

“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well no country could afford to take in everyone north of the darian gap. Its just too many people.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

There's days to alleviate the pressures that are pushing these people North. Like but funding right wing death squads or not putting sanctions on countries that elect the 'wrong leader'.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

We are the richest country in the history of the world and we have loads of empty space. We could double our population and still be fine.

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Republicans are like living jungian shadows, its incredible

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 17 points 3 months ago

Children should never be punished. The road to documented status should be easier, regardless of citizenship options, and not lead to deportation.

Galaxy brain psychopaths: "But what if we torture their loved ones instead?"

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 months ago

The terrible secret is that immigrarion is the secret sauce behind "American Exceptionalism"

High recent immigrant populations essentially select for people willing to put in the extra effort to migrate, which is a close proxy for to things like "entrepeneurship" and "seeking out better education/opportunities for their children."

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In any republican solution to a problem...

Cruelty IS THE POINT. if a solution does not contain some suffering for someone... Then it's not a good solution for a republican. For them no good can come WITHOUT SUFFERING.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

It's a very Catholic belief. I'm being serious!

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Children aren't people to conservatives, just levers to manipulate their parents.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

No, no. To conservatives children are also a labor force.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Strong incentive to leave the country for recent immigrants, and if they stay and eventually legalize their status, they will be uneducated. So it's a win win for conservatives.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 months ago (9 children)

This is explicitly about barring kids, who are already US citizens, from being able to attend school because their parents are undocumented.

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[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago

There's a little bit of history though: the backlash to a similar measure in California resulted in the Republican party becoming a permanent minority in the state legislature.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes I look at the US and think how crazy conservative some of this stuff is. But then, this is just Swedish reality these days.

requiring public schools to collect data on immigration status when students enroll

The current Swedish government, consisting of liberals, conservatives, and the far right, want this to be reality. Well, even worse stuff really. They want it to be illegal for an employee in schools, libraries, and hospitals not to report a child and their family if they suspect they may have some problem with immigration. It is so disgusting.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

I'm not too surprised by this; the politics of immigration are different in the US, where almost the entire population is immigrants and the descendants of immigrants, and Europe, which didn't have any real history of immigration until quite recently.

There are some very real benefits to allowing significant levels of immigration:

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You know what? The republicans are right; immigrants should leave. How about we start with white republican immigrants (or descendants thereof) of European ancestry, then we'll reevaluate.