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Main points: He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

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[-] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

popular elections in an ecosystem 1/4 bots, in which the admins hold ultimate unilateral authority.

[-] nodsocket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spez is such a nice guy, protecting the innocent users from the greedy elites who control the site. /s

1/4 bots, 1/4 advertising, 1/4 Onlyfans "entrepreneurs" and 1/4 users. What could possibly go wrong?

[-] ForbiddenRoot@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

I totally second this idea. The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

Even better. All posts in these subs can be advertisements, perfect.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

Yeah, don't even spend 3% of revenues as a cost of doing business. The soon-to-be-community-elected mods will do it for free. Super.

[-] Loccy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

And lo, the Internet looked down upon it's handiwork, and verily, t'was awesome.

All posts in these (business) subs can be advertisements, perfect.

And nobody will ever go there. And, two years down the track, u/spaz will hoik up the pricing or cut them off entirely because they're making money off of a non-profitable Reddit. "We want to work with the business subs but they're not interested in talking to us and have all thrown their toys out of the pram and shut down".

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Oh you want to have popular elections for mods? Do it, see what happens. Poll crashing is a fucking sport.

Oh yeah, and:

“If you’re a politician or a business owner, you are accountable to your constituents. So a politician needs to be elected, and a business owner can be fired by its shareholders,” he said.

CEO of a company doesn't even understand business ownership. Business owners cannot be fired. They can be bought out. Shareholders are owners. C-level employees are almost universally also owners. Nobody can just "take away" ownership; it has to be bought, and an owner of property is the person who gets to decide whether to sell it or not. What an idiot.

[-] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

come work for free

No thanks

builds an entire self-hosted instance of an open source, federated social media network...

[-] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

While undeniably shitty, how amazing would it be if after instituting popular voting on mods more subreddits voted to go private? Not likely but it is tempting

[-] plantstho@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

subreddits as businesses

I'll admit, I didn't have faith that he could, but he actually came up with a worse idea

[-] John_Shepard@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't even think it's an original idea, I'm sure there's mods in brand subs (video games, for example) who are employees for the company which owns the product. He's just making it official and I bet he's gonna ask for a pretty penny for it.

[-] Philip@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Is the CEO going to be popularly elected too?

[-] Richie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The bigger, sadder problem is that it would actually work. There's never been a more divided time in the world than now. You'd think everyone would see how disgraceful Reddit's actions have been and want nothing to do with the platform anymore, but realistically not everyone cares. It's already happening where you can simply tell mods that they aren't being paid for their time and instead of them thinking logically, they go ahead and ban you to silence you.

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[-] Matharl@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Smart move, it will definitely makes me go back to Reddit.
To vote for moderators who don’t want to end the protest.

Can we vote for the admins too?

[-] bill_1992@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You can "vote" against Reddit by not using it ;)

[-] Tashlan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly like, if he makes it so mods can be popularly elected/unelected, well, he's gonna end up with the other sort of Reddit protestor -- the feral shitposters -- tearing down every mod on the whole page. I assume he would have to reverse that policy at exactly the moment he gets rid of his ... enemies, I guess? -- or else ViolentAcrezMAGAEdition is gonna be running r/worldnews with Roger Stone.

[-] Catch42@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

He referred to the mods as landed gentry, which is such a gross and lazy way to try to get people on his side. It has a major flaw too: mods are unpaid, the whole idea behind gentry is that they make money from owning their land.

Let me help you out spez, you piece of shit, if you want to criticize the millions of dollars of unpaid work that mods do for their communities try comparing them to an HOA committee, that at least has a kernel of truth.

[-] Melon_Cooler@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It's even more hilarious when the label is much more accurately applied to capital owners such as himself; they are the ones actually making money off of other people's labour via their ownership (of a company rather than land).

[-] deaconblue@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Let them eat cake...

[-] decavolt@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

He can stuff the votes with bots and get what he wants. Don't think for a second that he'll let people like you and I succeed at voting out mods who are on his side.

[-] supernovae@readit.buzz 2 points 1 year ago

So you do all that work for nothing just to be able to be voted out? 😂

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[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Lol this is gonna be awful

[-] giddy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

tone deaf much?

What an ass. I hope this gets some mods still over there to move here.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Huffman has said Reddit is not profitable and in Thursday’s interview he said that Reddit’s annual revenue is less than $1 billion. Meta, owner of Instagram and Facebook reported revenue last year of $116.6 billion.

Ouch

[-] Thalyssa@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Spez is a fucking dick.

[-] Kurumatron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter what changes he makes I'm never going back to that site that it's filled with karma farmers, bots and onlyfans spamers

[-] crilen@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yea I'm actually glad there's an exodus of people who care. The ones who don't, I don't care about them either.

[-] eatmoregreenfood@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly fuck reddit. I was so tired of it, but there was nowhere else to go. At least I can develope a more healthy relationship with social media here

[-] code_stoic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit was pretty dope when the most popular post of the day had only 2k upvotes. They can keep their millions of users. We only need just enough.

[-] Scotty_Trees@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That’s also what kind of makes me curious about Tildes too, slowly growing for them is intentional.

[-] ethane@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Well this will bring me back to reddit... So I can vote out the mods who want to reopen the sub.

[-] ColonyOfMischief@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I was logging into Reddit to delete my posts (Which Chrome removed the Nuke Reddit History extension, thanks I guess) and on the front page was just gross homophobic memes. Yeah, I don't think I'll ever going back.

[-] Cap@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

When the subreddits went private I visited reddit three times, then a couple of times the next day, then once the following day. I haven't visited today and honestly I'm not missing it too much. If I get the urge to visit I just come here and it acts as my reddit nicotine patch.

[-] HappyHarryHadron@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I've been the same, and when I've browsed the comments there is so much aggro. Makes me wonder if it's always been like that and I was just blind to it.

Overall, the experience here is 1000 times better than Reddit

[-] nightofgrim@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll go back to reddit for a day to vote him off of r/programming

[-] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

There's also the long game of voting in the most appalling mods you can find.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They're just looking for admin-friendly volunteers to cross the picket line and kick out protesting mods. It's unsurprising that it's come to this, and has already started in various reddit's (such as /r/AdviceAnimals, which still exists, apparently).

[-] ogg42@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The correct response is scorched earth, time to delete the protesting subreddits. the CEO has zero respect for those folks who built those community’s, might as well help remove the actual value of reddit.

[-] Awhiskeydrunker@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Deleting the subreddits would be an easily reversible action for admins. Users will need to edit over comments to actually make a change that wouldn’t easily be reverted. Idk, maybe it could be. It would have to be a lot more users too.

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