Pixel Dungeon

The yog rework is amazing.

Wow, congratulations on 10 years! And on having the skills to make this your full time job, that's impressive.

I generally like the new sprites, but I'd caution that more detail and shading does not always improve readability of small sprites. A good example I think is the kunai, while the new graphic is technically more detailed in terms of more colors used in the shading, I think it makes it harder to tell at a glance where the inside "edges" are supposed to be because it's a smoother gradient now.

Pixel art requires a fair bit of stylization, and sometimes I think that means sacrificing detail to ensure readability.

Others have commented about the succubus sprite. I think it's the... elbow pads? that really make it hard to tell what she's supposed to be wearing. Fighter's signature armor and duelist's are both a little busy and hard to read as well.

Overall though, I'm loving the new graphics, and looking forward to what you have in store for us over the next stretch of years!

The dirk is too similar to the shortsword imo, the "flat" edge in the old design makes it easier to see which is which.

Love the new T4 T5 designs!

The new art looks absolutely gorgeous and I feel like it's the perfect next step for this game.

I do think there are a few nitpicks, but I completely understand that this is all just WIP

I can't tell what the succubus new top is supposed to be 🤔

Also please don't give rats teeth, the cute design of the rats is just as iconic as some of the characters.

Every time you win the game you have a little rat buddy with you

This was a change I hadn't realised that we needed - the splash art is amazing but needed tying in to the textures in-game so this is a perfect way to do this. I think the succubus could definitely do with a bit of work but most the other stuff I LOVE! Especially the Yog texture and the goo with teeth. It will take a lot of getting used to and the game will feel very different for a while but I'm already excited!!

Story is on par with bg3

Awesome stuff! I remember when development stopped on Pixel Dungeon all those years ago, and Shattered stayed on my phone after trying out the myriad of variants (Sprouted anyone?).

If you'd indulge me, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on a few things:

• Equipment degradation - This being one of the last features that watabou implemented before halting the project always seemed kind of extreme to me. What do you think about the mechanics of it, and do you think it could have been improved upon, if development had not ended? Have you tested with it much in development for Shattered?

• The other projects from watabou have been pretty cool to see. His proc-generative skills have really shone with the TTRPG tools, and I have actually used them in my own campaign, to some extent. Just wondering if you have checked them out.

• Any aspirations of starting something new, or is it SPD from here on?

Thanks for sharing your gift to the world! It's helped me pass countless hours enjoyably.

so it was actually a fun read but i would like to say something since you have asked for feedback, while i really appreciate your attempts at trying to polish the game but that doesn't look attracting idk how to describe it but those new designs look like they lack the shine the old designs had or in another words i think they look too much overpolished, it might be just a me thing though or my brain being conservative or something but the polish of the new designs just don't look fitting for this game to me, hope you don't take my words in a bad way

I'm kind of iffy about most of these. The simpler textures are better imo, all the extra colors on the new ones make them feel too complicated (and round, if that makes sense)

Goo with teeth looks great, but doesn't really fit from a lore perspective. Maybe change it so the teeth are made from broken rock? Seems like that would fit better thematically

A few that stuck out to me; corruption wand feels top-heavy, crystal chest is a bit too transparent, rings look like spaghetti-o's. Gnoll scouts look like wax figures, and monks look too similar to senior monks imo. The bright orange is the easiest tell. Seeds and dewdrops, please just don't. Massive downgrade for both

Evil eyes just look traumatized lol. Would be cool for april fools

DM-300 and mimic redesigns are both great. I'd love to see more like that

Finally, Yog-Dzewa. That sprite is absolutely phenomenal and I cannot wait to plunge an arrow directly in the pupil!

In the journal log "The Thief's guild" it says that they were working together with the thief's I guess it'd be cool to see that in the game maybe the rouge can somehow make them friendly or add a quest you can get from one thief.

If you go with a scary mimic you gotta change the laugh to something more sinister! Maybe just a deeper pitch, but that's what ebony mimic has. It really needs an freakish laugh for such a grisly graphic.

BTW, I've always thought that the mimic should not laugh if you directly hit it from far away with a ranged weapon or wand. He should groan out an "Ohh", instead. 😄

whew, this is gonna be a fun read

My two cents:

• new dagger ressemble too much new sword. Same with fishing spear and middle spear
• (personal taste) hammerhead is too big.
• big shield red I find a bit too dim.

• golden and Cristal mirmics have centered locks!
• artefacts timer and eye could be viewed 1 pixel more from the front to reduce size of sides.
• I'm in love with the bland fruit

• Top of walls seem slightly too bright
• great sewers (and loved the last update on level gen)

• mirmic, succubus and also robot have too many details

• goo has a mouth, not my style

• robot seems out of theme. Too harsh and steely. Maybe use a bit of bronze ?

• New yog is top!

• older necromancer could find a place as ghost invocation necromancer.

• new ~~character~~ hero blend too much on background - also bad for people with sight issues.

Dont forget to add more badge!

New visuals are 10/10 lets go!

This looks and sounds really rad, some changes I like more than others but overall this seems super cool and really sets Shattered PD as it's own project (even moreso than it already does!). Plus I can't be mad when a developer of a game I love continues to give such awesome content to us a decade down the line! Thankyou for all your hard work over the years.

Also I had just one question, when you overhaul the chests and mimics, will there still be a slight visual detail (mimic has a lower chest lid/lock) to be able to tell what's a mimic and what's a normal chest? I felt really awesome when I noticed it and love using it to make fights with mimics a bit more strategic if possible (without waiting for the tongue animation)

The Sad Ghost, the Necromancer and DM-300 look brutal. The other sprites look good, nothing big. The Evil Eye and Yog-Dzewa look uncanny... Not the good way, tho... I could be used to new Yog-Dzewa, but the Evil Eye just looks so.. weird. And I don't like Goo having a mouth... Wasn't it's whole deal that it was, and I quote: " a conglomerate of vile substances from the sewers that somehow gained basic intelligence."? That shouldn't have teeth!

I see that the new yog sprites are animated, will we also get new animations for it summoning mobs and charging it's laser attack?

Is someone willing to convince me to play this? I already have it installed on my tablet (only thing I have right now). Also, maybe a couple tips to get me going? I enjoy rogue lites, but haven't really delved into rogue likes so far

Edit: yeah, it's a real good time. Seems to be a fine entry level rogue like as far as I can tell. Took a few runs just to make it to the 3rd floor, but it just makes me want to keep trying. Definitely worth giving a go just to see

ayyyyy congrats!! thx for always keeping us in the loop :) i like the new yog, indifferent about everything else except the main characters. the new designs look too muddy. the outlines on the original are much stronger

Most if not all of the item changes look really cool! For the characters they don't overall look better or worse in my opinion, it just looks different which isn't a bad thing.

I love the new succubi! The old succubi have always seemed like creepy 8-year-olds to me.

Holy fuck graphics were my only critique to to his game now is improving? On your way to 10 outta 10.