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Slate Liberals - Why you should love a police state that will be used against you (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 months ago by SkingradGuard@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Linky: https://archive.is/bqfe6 and https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/08/why-progressives-should-actually-want-more-police-surveillance.html

The whole article is smuglord and maybe-later-kiddo

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

The progressive case for The Camps

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

It's interesting how she uses the voices of people of color to try to justify this. I tried looking into her background, and it seems like she's just white? This might be more blackwashing (idk if this is a real term) than representing what the "black community" wants. Add to that how the "black community" is not a monolith, and it really doesn't seem very genuine.

Also, she was charged with child endangerment. Just a fun fact I found while looking her up.

[+] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Opposing ideas without investigating and ignoring real-world problems that get in the way of sweeping solutions are hallmarks of ultraleftism.

Recognizing the theoretical utility of empowering the investigative apparatus of a hypothetical proletarian state is a piss poor defense of empowering the actually existing settler colonial bourgeois state with tools to defend their class supremacy. I'm no scholar, but I'm pretty sure Mao's point wasn't that you should arm your class enemies to better fantasize about how cool it would be if those tools fell into your lap instead. Lenin is quite clear: "Today, in Britain and America, too, 'the precondition for every real people's revolution' is the smashing, the destruction of the 'ready-made state machinery'"

the guy at the top is at minimum doing actual harm reduction

yeah, and ~~Joe Biden~~ Kamala Harris is the most progressive president in history so who are you to shirk your duty to vote for ~~him~~ her to Save Democracy™? after all, "shut up and listen to the sensible policy solutions of qualified bourgeois experts" was famously Mao's whole deal...

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