Remember when people acted like Disney was great because they were fighting DeSantis on shit?
Billion dollar corporations aren't on our side even if they occasionally do things we like. Sometimes it's just two assholes and no one is the good guy.
this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2024
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They are just opportunists. Anything that benefits them is their policy. If being supportive of queer people makes them money, then that is what they do. If being racist were to make them money, then they would be racist. As long as they make money, corpos will support literal hitler without batting an eye.
literal hitler
Speaking of which, it's always been this way. Walter disney got very friendly with German buearaucracy after the events of Kristallnacht, all because he wanted them to continue showing disney films.
He was Nazi and antisemite adjacent at the very least. I'm not sure it played out like you described either
IN 1938, a month after the Nazi assault on German Jews known as Kristallnacht made headlines across the world, Walt Disney gave Hitler’s pet filmmaker, Leni Riefenstahl, a tour of his studio. He showed her some Mickey Mouse sketches, and she offered to show him “Olympia,” her cinematic slog through the 1936 Berlin Olympics. He turned her down because he was worried it would get out that he was playing host to a woman most of Hollywood shunned. In his biography “Leni” Steven Bach writes that when she returned to Germany, she praised Disney for receiving her, saying, it “was gratifying to learn how thoroughly proper Americans distance themselves from the smear campaigns of the Jews.”
https://archive.is/jQ2rY#selection-464.0-472.1
Also, definitely a racist.
And there is the fact that in 1938, a month after Kristallnacht, Disney personally welcomed Nazi director Leni Riefenstahl to his studios.
Even if he wasn’t personally anti-Semitic, Gabler allows that Disney “willingly, even enthusiastically, embraced [anti-Semites] and cast his fate with them.”
Gabler cites a meeting in which Disney referred to the Snow White dwarves as a “n***** pile” and another in which he used the term “pickaninny.” The book notes that Disney anticipated the Song of the South controversy and attempted to make it less racist with a rewrite and meeting with the NAACP. The meeting never happened, and the movie was released anyway. There was also some controversy about the company’s unwillingness to hire minorities at Disneyland.
https://www.vulture.com/2013/12/walt-disney-anti-semitism-racism-sexism-frozen-head.html
Imagine if 2 or more things could be true at the same time!
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Disney is a giant evil corporation that has some extremely unsavory practices.
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DeSantis is a trash goblin
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People don't want Disney and the products it produces to be destroyed especially by the grimy hands of a trash goblin.
I remember people acting like it was great that DeSantis thought he could take on the Mouse, but I don't think anyone was fooled that Disney was on our side. More like when cartoonishly evil mayor tries to tame the monster that lives under the town and so it eats him for his hubris. See: Smug Snake Bullying the Dragon.
I never thought they were great but I was willing to watch DeSantis run straight into that wall.
That was kind of a "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" type situation. I don't think most people were rooting for Disney to win, they just wanted to see Desantis lose
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I remember asking “is there any way they can both lose?”
Because you’re 100% correct. Billion/Trillion dollar companies care only about profit. If they do something we like it’s because they think that is a profitable move, in either the short or (much more rarely the long) term.
If they burn each other to the ground, that's fine by me
Holy shit I hope precedent gets set for this being ridiculous
As someone else pointed out, if that happens we can force them into arbitrage on copyright issues. I’m opening Disney World 2.0.
Arbitration. "Arbitrage" is when you buy something (such as a currency) and then immediately exchange it for a profit due to a discrepancy in rates.
well, I'm one of today's lucky 10 thousand! neat word, didn't know that! :)
Thanks for the correction. I'll leave my mistake to preserve continuity.
fwiw Wiktionary lists a second definition:
(archaic) Arbitration.
Dunno just how archaic that is, and perhaps if it's more archaic in some dialects than others.
So basically, if you sign up for Disney+ they can just come to your house and kill you? Fantastic.
Well, your surviving family members would still be able to take them to arbitration.
This will be an interesting test of how binding forced arbitration clauses are, if anything. I really, really, hope the court rightfully tells Disney to go shovel rain, though.
Even if it was binding, it would only be binding within the scope of that agreement. Arbitration for issues regarding the streaming service. A fucking streaming contract can't bind you in other areas of your life, and if it can, then it's time to burn the legislate to the ground.
Hold up. Arbitration is mostly a court thing. Let's give the legislature 6 months to get a law passed before we just lump them in with our dysfunctional courts.
Forget legal recourse (assuming this post is true at face value which is a huge assumption I know) but if a corporation is trying to get out of ending a human life in such an obviously unjust way, we as a society should be burning them to the ground.
But at the same time, who would throw away their life (being jailed) in order to do that, because citizens are definitely not protected in the same way, so this will just keep on happening. (Assuming this case is real, but there are other equally abhorrent examples of corporations being excused of consequences for ending human life for the sake of making money)
it's great that the corporate lawyers who do this shit get more of societies abstracted denatured fungible resources than any doctor, any engineer, any social worker. this fucking system is irreparably broken.
there are things we can do though.
we can exclude them from society; the entire professional apparatus of law that enables this. we can put bodily fluids (or random allergens) in their food and drink. we can treat them rudely and last at the hospital. we can lose their paperwork. we can slash their tires. we can spit in their faces. we can cut them off in traffic. we can publish the graduating classes of law schools. we can pick fights with them in bars. we can ruin their dry cleaning. I bet some of us could even fuck up surgeries, or just be a little slow with the jaws of life. we can even reward any children that bully theirs, encourage it, coach it, unless those children loudly reject their parents. we can undercut and isolate and torment them at every opportunity. and we can normalize all of this. not that any of us will ever see it happen, of course. I know I'm not going to see shit.
Goddamn Disney that’s a new low.
Gonna have to adjust the “Disney or Florida” scales now. SAD!
I wonder what kind of situation lead to waiting staff guaranteeing allergen free food, when the food in front of them is clearly only partially marked with specific flags. I'd rather take the order back and double check before I kill someone
Also, everyone should know, 538 is now owned by ESPN, which is owned by Disney. They are not a reliable source for polling.
I've certainly read that the USA has some bizarre legal quirks, but surely you can't waive your rights, and everyone has a right to bring a case to court?
Corporations are of the opinion that nuh-uh.
I'm currently at odds with my landlord over the rent and the brazenness with which the bozo they've hired just sends us an email saying one thing with a legal letter as an attachment that says the opposite just boggles the mind.
Most countries have some waivable rights. The US specifically allows you to waive your right to bring disputes to court through contracts. You retain the ability to challenge the arbitration requirement in court, but if you have any other concerns, it's arbitration.
This ist one of the most disgusting, evil and treacherous examples of late stage capitalism.
Mickey Mouse will be the governor of Florida someday
How family friendly of them.
Shouldn’t the waiter or chef be sued? They seemed to be the one who was negligent
The lawsuit alleges that Raglan Road failed to educate, train and/or instruct its employees to make sure food was allergen-free.
They're responsible for proper safety trianing.