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[–] drdalek@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Worth noting, she no longer supports a single payer system for the US.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

so what's the alternative and why is it worse?

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The alternative is to stick with the ACA as it is now. It's worse because insurance marketplaces cost more and create inefficiency compared to a single payer system. More people could have access to less expensive healthcare with a single-payer system.

Does that make sense?

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

i see thanks

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Public option. It’s basically the government will sell you Medicare (at best), likely subsidized to your financial needs. And it’s worse because it’s easier for insurance companies to lobby to gut and privatize. Single payer means everyone just has government insurance in the same way we all have access to firefighting services. You pay a tax for it yes, but the efficiency comes from there only needing to be one of this thing.

[–] drdalek@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's crazy to me that saying anything negative is seen as non support, or support for the other. Fuck Trump, but I think keeping leaders in transparency and countering misinformation is important.

Edit: spelling

[–] Dud@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean yea keeping people honest is always good. That being said I feel like you either misconstrued what they were asking or just sidestepped what they asked all together.

[–] drdalek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm allowed to voice discourse without having an alternative solution.

You can recognize something is wrong without knowing how fix it.

[–] Dud@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

I mean once again yea sure, but you may want to just dial back the combativeness a tad. Not trying to start a blood feud or anything here was just pointing out something. You could have also led in to their question with that you didn't know a better solution and explained yourself somewhat more clearly.

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

We can assume she'll just follow the establishment policies enacted under Biden - basically nothing.

[–] DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“I’m Kamala Harris and I approve this message.”

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Not. Unfortunately.

Wish she would

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I will never understand Americans who don't want health care. You like paying those insane bills? I wave a magic green card and all but my parking is covered by and large. My health card is far from perfect but mostly we get what we need.

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They have this weird idea that life is a zero sum game so that if someone else gains something, they will lose something. Republicans usually dig into this with fear-mongering about how Democrats want them to pay for abortions and Trans-gender surgeries or how their Healthcare will be worse.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

and even people who have nothing to lose are afraid of this shit. so clearly it's not rational. it's the concept of precarity, it's the malthusian crab bucket mind virus.

[–] RadicallyBland@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Don't forget the illegal immigrants. Just a constant threat to your life and existence that can't really be measured. They're here illegally.. so.. we can't really count them. If we could, they'd all be arrested and deported. It's perfect. Just a constant existential threat you cant prove doesn't exist. Like Satan. I guess it's no coincidence that most of them are also probably very religious and believe anything with zero proof.

[–] yourgodlucifer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They are convinced that it will raise their taxes so much it will cost them more. And that it will cause the healthcare system to be inefficient and cause longer wait times and that the government will have "death panels" and decide who gets to live and die.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Why would I pay the government to collect everyone's money and use it to fund other people's medical expenses when I'm healthy? I'd much rather pay a private insurance company to collect everyone's money and use it to partially fund other people's medical expenses while profiting off of the rest! It just makes sense."

[–] WJWARLOCK@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

That's the problem with America. It's all me me me, instead of us. This is why the country is the way it is.

[–] DevopsPalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I had this argument with my parents and even after showing them proof and numbers it just turned around to illegal immigrants and what ever other BS that they parrot from Fox News. It really makes me sad to know they don't think for themselves or bother to cross check anything anymore

[–] hark@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

republican-propaganda!kamala is so much better than real!kamala.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Seriously. I wish she was about half as good as they say she is!

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a regular thing in right wing media. They make these wild statements before the election then after the election when it doesn't come to pass they blame the person they made the false accusations against.
2008: "Obama is going to take your money and spread the wealth". 2012: "These stupid Democrats thought Obama was going to spread the wealth"

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I mean, I hope she does, lol.

Also. I’m confident that while the “accusation” is something of an exaggeration- she is going to try and push through solutions; and that’s better than what the repugnants are gonna do.