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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 116 points 3 months ago (19 children)

The Israelis don’t treat Palestinians like they are human beings. They don’t care to make generations of enemies with their war crimes.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only thing Israel seems to value about Palestinians is their land.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

not true! look at all the riots and almost civil war that happened when a judge said maybe you don't have the right to rape palestinian prisoners!

their orifices and screams are also valued. something something chopping wood.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 94 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Nazis carry on with pogroms ☹️

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[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 69 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's a weird word to use to describe state sponsored terrorism.

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you think a settler colony is?

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Settlers is a weird word... Not evil.

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (9 children)

readsettlers.org then. Settlers are pure evil.

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're gonna have to explain this take. Illegal state-sponsored settlements in the West Bank are absolutely evil. There's nothing weird about describing it that way.

[–] NormalPerson@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they meant using the word settler instead of something more apt, like invader, pillager, trespasser, violator, etc.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

"Settlers" isonly weird to you if you discount all the other times settler colonialists stole land and committed ethnic cleansing and genocide.

[–] RockyC@lemm.ee 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Linktank 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you misspelled bomb.

[–] occhionaut@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

Yes, drop the gay bomb on Israel and Palestine. Enemies to lovers!

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Oh no it's okay Blinken declared their war crimes to be GMO free.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

oh, good thinking, yes; that village was a terrorist.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 months ago

Yes, it's definitely the residents of Gaza and the West Bank who are committing genocide against the residents of Israel.

Definitely.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At what point are they no longer "settlers"?

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s… what settlers are.

The land isn’t unoccupied. The people who were there before are going to be a constant problem for the settlers because they will always resent being pushed out of their homes.

The settlers have to kill or permanently displace the people who lived in the land they’re trying to settle in order to settle it.

That’s what the process is.

Theyre settlers.

They’re violently displacing and killing the people on the land they want to settle.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (13 children)

Well you can send settlers to an empty desert. You can also send settlers to a sparsely inhabited land and have them get along with the locals. It's not like it's physically impossible.

I see the concept of settler as someone who goes live somewhere where there aren't many people, not a role where conflict is a major part of the thing.

West Bank settlers sent by Israel were already highly questionable, but if they start doing things like this, they're just soldiers with extra steps.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Israel has the right to defend itself!!!!!

Rheeeeee

[–] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which clearly gives them a carte blanche to genocide and apartheid

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is conjuring the image of pogroms and burning shtetls antisemitic? Asking for a friend.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

well is this the level of backlash required to force israil to use civil pawns to continue the terrorism?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Settler Violence is deliberate, and exploited by the Israeli State to continue ethnic cleansing & Settler Colonialism in the West Bank with plausible deniability

The state takes over land openly, using official methods sanctioned by legal advisors and judges, while the settlers, who are also interested in taking over land to further their agenda, initiate violence against Palestinians for their own reasons. Yet in truth, there is only one track: Settler violence against Palestinians is part of the strategy employed by Israel’s apartheid regime, which seeks to take over more and more West Bank land. The state fully supports and assists these acts of violence, and its agents sometimes participate in them directly. As such, settler violence is a form of government policy, aided and abetted by official state authorities with their active participation.

The combination of state violence and nominally unofficial violence allows Israel to have it both ways: maintain plausible deniability and blame the violence on settlers rather than on the military, the courts or the Civil Administration while advancing Palestinian dispossession. The facts, however, blow plausible deniability out of the water: When the violence occurs with permission and assistance from the Israeli authorities and under its auspices, it is state violence. The settlers are not defying the state; they are doing its bidding.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

there are no zionist civilians, holy shit. every time I think they can't possibly worse, they find a way to surprise me.

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