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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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… He had pulled out the phone in confusion as officers surrounded him as he walked to the corner store, responding to what turned out to be a false report of domestic violence one afternoon more than five years ago.

One of the officers thought White might have a gun, prompting him and several colleagues to start shooting. Bullets ripped into his legs and shoulder as he fell to the pavement — but he survived.

His shooting, around the corner from his South L.A. apartment building, was one of at least 38 in the last five years in which LAPD officers opened fire on someone who ended up being unarmed, according to a Times review of nearly 200 police shootings since 2018. ...

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

If the cops had their shit together, they would have killed him dead and avoided this whole mess.

(And no one can tell me they don't talk shit like that in the locker room.)

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn’t seem enough to cover medical bills, let alone living expenses, especially after legal fees.

[–] Weazel@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wtf America.. imagine getting shot, being awarded more than 2mil. Dollars compensation and then still not having enough to live.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Attorneys get a third, then medical bills (which are probably more than the payout, I just saw my friend’s bills from a minor car accident that totaled 23k, and that was just a CT scan and a couple of x-rays, at an in-and-out urgent care facility), and living expenses in South LA? Idk, it seems short.

[–] mle86@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

His shooting [...] was one of at least 38 in the last five years in which LAPD officers opened fire on someone who ended up being unarmed

So on average, more than 7 unarmed people get shot by police each year, in Los Angeles alone, never mind the whole country!?

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Any cop who mistakes a phone for a gun, even once, should be disqualified from being a cop anywhere else in the future.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh let's wait for the appeal and then they give the officer a medal.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

They don't need to appeal, the money's coming out of the city's budget and the cops don't get held personally responsible. And the fiscal conservatives are somehow fine with this very inefficient arrangement.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These people are trained around weapons. How could they perform in their occupation so poorly.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because their training is a few weeks long and it's mostly centered around training them that everyone is trying to kill them.

They're doing exactly what they were trained to do.