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I really wanted to post this on !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net but I'm not trans myself and I didn't want to take up their space.

Basically, the devs of Lemmy are looking to make upvotes public to everyone. Right now, I believe voter identities are known to server admins and mods.

I don't have a strong opinion on this myself, either for or against, as I write this comment, but I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing, frankly as a cishet dude.

But also... I've kinda lost trust in Nutomic making decisions about the software that won't make things worse for trans people since his comments on the Olympics were made public. Dessalines has (so far) at least tolerated Nutomic's transphobia despite whatever prior rhetoric. Frankly, I am suspicious that trans people don't matter to the Lemmy dev team...to be charitable...so I'd really like to hear your thoughts.

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[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No way. The admins can see them already.

You should not be afraid of the opinions of the people. You should seek to understand and possibly change it if necessary. It is a far better meter stick of how people really think if it's anonymous, and it also stops users being hounded.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Doesn't matter on Hexbear since I upvote randomly.

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

alright what kind of political organization we gotta do to remove upbeats from this website

[–] christian@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm going to make a bad-take-liker alt specifically for lurking so that people know to feel a deep sense of shame when they see that I have liked their post.

edit: alt account #2 will like at most one other user's comment every day, you will have to find them all in chronological order to read my manifesto. Skipped days are paragraph breaks.

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I’m in favor of information symmetry between admins and users. That data is in the database and we’re trying to foster a pro-social environment, so being able to see who’s voting on what might help that along. Just please don’t start sending notifications for likes like Facebook and TikTok do

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

sounds cool

[–] SnowySkyes@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

It'd make it much easier to weed out transphobes and misogynists, the latter which this site has had a historical issue with.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Idk why bother, either way it won't make lemmy less full of liberals who would use ul a genie wish to make NATO rule the world and think it's a "promoting freedom" or something rather than U.S. imperial ambitions

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

BASED BASED BASED

@marcie@lemmy.ml you asked for this!

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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~Nah. If mods can already see this, I’m fine leaving it as is~~ if massive nerds can already see it, might as well make it public

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Please don't. I've been "investigated" (harassed) off other sites that had this.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Are the admins/mods willing to be extra trigger happy with bans if/when this is used to harass people?

Or will this just chase lots more users to hexbear? thonk

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I have zero skin in the game, so from a personal perspective I don't care either way. Everybody is going to find out that I upvote shitposts and people who respond to me—that's going to be the extent of my consequences if votes go public.

Philosophically I think transparency is better than obfuscation. Especially since a dedicated user can figure the info out right now, anyway.

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