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[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Could"? Sure. "Should"? Probably. "Will"? No chance. Have you not been paying attention?

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is a chance. It is much smaller than I'd like, but it's there.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think it’s a larger chance than most people think. Yes it’s a first offense but it’s not an offense that should be taken lightly. He has a history of crime now after being found guilty of fraud and civilly liable for sexual assault(rape).

I see no reason for the judge to go easy on him. He was a PITA and didn’t follow gag orders, he’s guilty of a degree of fraud we haven’t seen in a long time, and that fraud impacted an election of the United States in a very large way, leading to uninformed voters and hid a scandal from the public.

The judge should bury him. At least give him 2-3 months in jail. If this comes without jail time, it will be a huge injustice to everyone. To know that you can lie to the American voting public and commit fraud from the White House and get away with a slap on the wrist would do great damage to this country (nothing new tho). Hope the judge does the right thing.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Violated the gag order ten times. Again: TEN times.

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See how far down this ladder any other citizen comes before facing actual consequences.

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Na.

Sadly the legal armchair experts said that common sentence for a first time offense of what he was found guilty of does not include prison.

You don't understand what "small but it's there" means, do you?

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even 30 days would be great. I just wanna feel like he got punished slightly for all those laws he's broken.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’d settle for a fucking week of him being made to wear an orange suit and shit next to his bed.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That'll never happen. He'd be in that celebrity jail they send people like Martha Stewart.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I know but a fella can dream

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

I feel like it's a primatologists scenario now, where all the top primatologists are like "We have to stand back and let them do this, otherwise it's really bad for their society" ...and the wealthy corrupt Zoo owner is still like "but he's my top attraction, I could never let them kill old poo flinger".

We need to kill old poo flinger.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That seems wildly unlikely based on the analysis I've seen. I'd love it to be wrong, of course.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

agreed. but, if he gets convicted in another trial multiple convictions could affect sentencing.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Multiple convictions is a whole other thing. Right now, he's a "first time offender." But if he's a convicted as a felon I think other cases will go differently.

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Everyone knows your first treason is a freebie.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Really, given that he violated his gag order multiple times and threatened the judge, the jury, and the witnesses, Merchan should absolutely give him some prison time, and point out during sentencing that simply keeping his mouth shut and respecting the process would've resulted in some probation and community service. Most first-time offenders don't get prison time for this, but Trump couldn't stop running his mouth.

Two years would be a just punishment, I think.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Good that you mentioned this. After all that you listed, he still whined that he was being victimized and how he couldn't speak to defend himself. He's doing the same thing with the requests to lay off the personal attacks on kamala and stick to policy from his side. He is indeed scum of the earth, playing the victim. Except scum is nicer.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Lock him the fuck up.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 2 months ago
[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I hope he loses by one vote in Florida

[–] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I hope he loses by 100,000 votes in Florida so he can’t as easily whine about the result.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

He can pay one person to flip. He can't pay tens of thousands.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

Not if the Supreme court has something to say.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yoo is a war criminal and should be behind bars. Instead he's a pundit in faux news.

[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump is a nightmare for sure, but I’d argue every US president from at least the past 80 years is a war criminal who should be behind bars.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They were referring to the person quoted in the article:

California-Berkeley law professor John Yoo, who served in former President George W. Bush's Department of Justice

He wrote the Torture Memos, among other things, which is probably why the previous commenter would call him out as a war criminal.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fuck that. It should include the gallows.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, but not for the 34 felonies he's been convicted of so far.

[–] Subnet64@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I want to see him in GP telling everyone how great he is. Won't happen, but want to see it.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I want to see him in an orange jumpsuit.