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Unfortunately I cannot find it anywhere online. It doesn't help that there is no brand name on it ;)

EDIT: The product is http://milebv.eu/index.php/products/product/25 (thanks to @rbn@sopuli.xyz for finding it!)

I used to buy this at a local vegan store (veganz at Warschauerstr in Berlin), but that store closed a while ago.

It was the most amazing mock duck I've had, but now I can't find it anywhere else. All I have is this picture (I don't even remember why I took it, probably to tell someone how amazing it is).

As far as I recall the product was made in Taiwan, not sure if that helps.

Of course, any other suggestions for tasty mock duck are welcome too, since I just love this stuff 😋

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[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

According to this thread on Reddit... https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/xstl9d/thoughts_anyone_had_this_b4/

... it's this product... https://milebv.eu/index.php/products/product/25

... and can be found at Asia stores.

As it's essentially just gluten and spices, you can probably make it yourself fairly easy.

★Ingredients: Wheat gluten 92%, wheat starch 3%, soy sauce (contain black soy, salt, and sugar) 1.5%, suger, salt, spices(anise, fennel, clove, cinnamon, chineses red pepper), hydrated soy protein Net/Peso Neto: 500g

Cf Taiwan Sole Agent: Eternational B.V., Kerkenbos 10-125 Nijmegen, The Netherlands -24-3773698 FAX: +31-24-3773625 te: www.milebv.eu :info@milebv.eu visor: Xiang Enterprise CO.,LTD, Taiwan R.O.C +886-4-7587198 FAX: +886-4-7585677

Per 100g 594kJ/142kcal Fat 2.6g Carbohydrates 9.7g Of which Sugar0.8g Fibre 0.9g Protein 20g Salt 1.6g

[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, that's the one! Thank you so much, maybe now that I know the manufacturer i can find it somewhere.

I've checked multiple asia stores already, will continue doing so.

Regarding making it myself: the ingredients aren' t special, but the texture is something i don't know how to recreate

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Based on the calories of the finished product, it contains around 65% water. Based on the pictures I'd expect the consistency to be rather soft and a bit like gummy. So maybe like a slightly harder version of tofu?

If that's correct, I guess the consistency might come from the added starch. I'd try to heat it slowly. You can try to put the dought at a slow wattage (~200W for 10-15 minutes) in the microwave. Alternatively, you can steam it for 20-30 minutes. Then put it in a preheated pan to give it a short roast from both sides. If you don't want it to be crispy, you can put a lid on the pan.

[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

Based on the pictures I’d expect the consistency to be rather soft and a bit like gummy.

that's correct. The outer crust is a bit harder than the center, and the center consists of layers, which come apart easily when cutting. Not sure how to recreate those...

Thanks for the other tips, I'll try adding starch next time I experiment with saitan. Also haven't tried to microwave it yet, usually I steam it or bake it.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

You could copy the link and name to the top of the post :)

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Not the product in question, but I've had pretty good success with this mock duck recipe:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BZUqaHVzSzE

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

Many Asian supermarkets in Berlin carry similar products.