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[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Generally speaking, any xbox one or later generation controller. Theyre all relatively the same.

Real shit though, Xbox The Duke is my favorite

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

i miss the black and white buttons from the mini xbox controller days. still feel like 4 buttons is not enough on the right pad, especially considering how often games use L3/R3 joystick click which i fucking loathe.

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[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Big handed bastard

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[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

8bitdo Pro 2 is very versatile, I'm curious about the Ultimate. I love my SteamController for modern games.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I played games on my PC I ended up spending more time configuring my Steam controller than I did playing the game.

A classic example of perfect being the enemy of good.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Used to be the Logitech F310. Simple, reliable, used my preferred layout, inexpensive, and durable.

Then I got a PS5 and experienced the DualSense's adaptive triggers and I can't go back.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I had a Dualsense for my computer just because it has the best D-pad

Then I got Returnal and experienced the haptics and triggers and HOLY SHIT. I tried a keyboard and mouse and the game felt FLAT. It really is incredible! Pacific Drive also takes full advantage of it, the brake trigger feels like and actual car brake and the accelerator trigger rumbles and vibrates with the haptics as you go.

Absolutely fuckin dope.

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'll controversially say that I really love the Steam controller. Not the steam deck (which is honestly my number 1 if we're including handhelds) but the original controller intended for use with the steam link device.

It really just needs a right analog stick and it would be great. The lack of one takes it from 10/10 to like a 7/10. It's so good otherwise, great weight and size, good design. Sensible layout and the big track pads work really well! It was clearly a prototype for how the Deck layout ended up, though I actually like the controller's big circular pads more than the decks little square ones.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

The steam controller is absolutely my favorite shape and feel for the controller.

The one big flaw is the plastic bumper mechanism that has broken on 3 of my units, 1 I was able to send back, 1 replaced with PETG 3D printed part which is less clicky, but more durable, and 1 still intact.

Still, I have exclusively used those for years when not playing on Switch

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[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At the moment, my PS5 controller connected to my Linux PC via USB-C. It has perfect support due to official in kernel drivers from Sony and very little lag when used via USB-C.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm switching to Linux when I get set up again. Fuck the Recall bull shit. Straw that broke the camels back. I had not considered controller drivers. Is Xbox One over Bluetooth a thing, or will I need to go with Sony?

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The XBOX One controller should be fully bluetooth hid compliant and it should work out of the box for at least all the buttons and axis. There are userspace and kernel drivers for the XBOX controller too (xpad and xboxdrv) but I don't have much experience with them or with bluetooth controller in general.

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[–] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Steam deck's controls hands down if that counts. If not, surprisingly I'd have to say my stadia controller. Got one for $20 and it's fantastic.

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[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Me personally, I like the 360 controller the most

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Have you tried the Xbox One controllers? If so, what do you like better about the 360?

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I have, I had the day one 2013 controller, it was nice but it developed drift quite fast, and also is harder to repair

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[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

X-Box 360. I have an old official one for my PC. I played Dark Souls with it so it is now ingrained into my body. Also all the years of Halo.

I really dislike the X-Box One controller. Feels too big in my hand and just off.

I fear the day my wired one breaks since they stopped making official wired ones for PC.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The d-pad on the 360 controller was garbage. It was the only thing holding it back.

I think they've found a great place with the One/Series controllers.

I also really appreciate that with the jump to the Series X/S they didn't change controllers. They had one that worked that people liked, so they kept it. And it works via Xbox's proprietary wireless protocol, USB, or Bluetooth, so it works on pretty much anything but a Playstation or Nintendo.

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[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

There is no perfect controller…

…But I do have a list of features I would want my perfect controller to have based off all the controllers that have ever been made :

  • TMR joystick modules (successor to Hall effect sticks)
  • adjustable tension springs and locking mechanism for varied stick cap types (Xbox Elite series 2 does most of this but uses magnetic caps which would interfere with the TMR sticks so ball bearing connections or other option would be preferable)
  • 6 DOF / gyro sensors + infrared camera (Wii Motion Plus)
  • Adaptive haptic triggers (PS5) which can be toggled to hair trigger mode via switches (Xbox Elite series 2)
  • multi-touchpad on face (PS5)
  • analog face buttons (DualShock 2 controller had this but only a few games utilized this… the best example was the PS2 era Metal Gear Solid games)
  • customizable “per-button” color assignment / micro OLED or e-ink screens so button graphics can be swapped (PBTails new controller does the per button RGB color assignment)
  • USB-C / 4 wired connectivity + charging
  • baseplate contact-charging (PS5 controller has these so you can set them on charging docks)
  • hot swappable battery pack + AA battery holder pack or ability to not have a battery on at all when connected via USB-C (Xbox 360 controller had this)
  • swappable non-magnetic Zinc-alloy faceplates (PBTails new controller has these)
  • removable back triggers with dedicated button assignments (like the Steam Deck’s L4/5 and R4/5 buttons; not just cloned face buttons like Sony and XBox do)
  • integrated microphone with hardware toggle (PS5)
  • proper “separate keys” d-pad… not the mushy type
  • touch-sensitive surfaces for every button and stick (Meta / Oculus Quest controllers do this)
  • per-finger-joint touch sensitive grips for each finger segment (Valve’s VR controllers did this)
  • the ability to separate the halves of the controller so that each hand could hold one half independently and have them track similar to most standard VR controllers (think combining the switch controllers and Quest controllers)
  • NFC communication (Amiibo-stuff for example)

If any single controller did even half of this, they’d easily be the GOAT.

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[–] deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Xbox 360 was/is peak controller design

[–] ilhamagh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What made 360 better than series One (i own this one)?

Better ergonomics? It has such negligible difference design wise, and the d-pad looks awful

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[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

8bitdo SN30 pro. Small, lightweight, perfect button placement. SNES controller designers knew their shit, just add two sticks and a pair of triggers and you can play almost anything with it.

[–] mudmaniac@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I love this little buddy too. So much so I replaced the ABXY silicon contact pad with replacements from their official website. I love that they sell spare parts, I hate that they gouge me on shipping. So I bought 6 ABXY and 6 crosspad and still have 5 each remaining.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

My favorite layout so far is on the Razer Wolverine V2 Chroma Xbox wired controller. It has x/y up between the shoulder and triggers, back buttons for a/b, so you can keep your right thumb on the thumbstick without moving it to hit face buttons a/b/x/y.

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For fighting games, my own custom built stick. Put this together last year to replace the Hori RAP4 that had served me well for seven years until a button cap broke off. Super happy with how this turned out. It's much lighter, I like having a detachable cable. GP2040-CE supports Switch natively so I no longer need an adapter (and I can feel the difference in latency now), and Sanwa silents mean I can practice late at night without keeping anyone awake. And it just looks good, it's on brand for me.

For everything else that is not fighting games, 8BitDo Pro 2.

I also have a soft spot for the Wii Classic Controller Pro, I miss having gates on the analog sticks. I'd kill for a modern refresh of that with L3/R3, gyro, and USB instead of having to plug it into a Wiimote.

[–] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

That’s a mighty fine stick you got there. One might even refer to it as lovely.

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[–] Tolstoy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I have been playing videogames since 1992. Went through almost every controller design possible. From the modern ones, I never liked the layout from the playstation so sticked to Xbox. At the moment I'm using a GameSir T4 Kaleid and absolutely loving it. Mechanical buttons and hall effect joystick are very nice. Since I've had it only for a year I can't say anything about reliability. Most reliable Xbox controllers in order are Xbox classic controller S, 360, One. After that every single one is bad IMO. Series controller start to drift pretty fast, same as both elites. So at the moment my most favourite is the Xbox One controller 2nd revision (1708) also known as Xbox one S controller but if the GameSir won't break for the next couple of years it will be the top one for me.

I hope more first party controllers will get a proper higher tier version with real reliable parts like everything hall effect and mechanical buttons...

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Keyboard and mouse :^)

The Playstation controller is pretty great. I have a PS2 and it still feels nice to use

[–] djidane535@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Switch Pro controller for its asymmetrical layout + gyroscope (it’s so much better for aiming). I’d love to test a PS5 controller but symmetrical layout tend to hurt my hands (it was already the case for the PS3/PS4 controllers, so I have little hope for the PS5 controller).

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[–] RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

not a separate controller but the steam deck controller.

if that doesn't count then it's the Stadia controller.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right now I’m mostly using the Xbox One controller (on PC). It’s a controller that feels really good to hold. No weird gimmicks like motion control either. I think it’s one of the all time greats.

Runner up is GameCube.

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

N64 controller. Obviously it wasn't exactly great to use, but its completely unique look is so iconic and that makes it my fave.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

I really love the current gen controllers. I was using a Series X controller, which has a fantastic weight and feel, but I started experiencing drift. I decided to get a PS5 controller after that, and it's even better! I use it with my PC, and the touchpad works as a mousepad, which has allowed me to play a LOT of games comfortably on the couch, when I'd normally have to fumble with my mouse and keyboard.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

PS2. Before all the unnecessary extra expense got added in.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

Switch pro controller previously and Xbox controller lately. I especially like the detachable AA batteries of the Xbox controller as I can charge extra batteries separately.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

To be specific, the Xbox One Elite controller. I really liked the Series 2 but it fell apart on me. I never had much issue with the original. I'm a glutton for punishment though, and I'd get another Series 2. I don't mind working on them so it isn't the biggest deal

I really love the Switch Pro controller, but I wish it had analog triggers. I also have love for the GameCube controller. I am at home with the N64 controller, but I can't say it's a favorite

It's probably because I have bias, but I've never cared for any of Sony's offerings. Something about the sticks doesn't feel right with both being at the bottom

[–] Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I grew up with the PS Dualshock and Dualshock 2 controllers. They were all I ever knew as a kid. But, I absolutely prefer the XBox layout now as well. Something about it just works better for me. On the other hand, my wife also only knew PS growing up and she just can't get used to the XBox layout.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I can switch between any controller and not think about it. My poor partner has to try to keep up with what console or PC and controllers we are using

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

My series 1 ended up developing a pretty bad flaw with the input chip and is dead-dead. It also developed a sticky X button right away, which I could repair but went back to not being perfect. The Series 2 has been more reliable, but I also use it less.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh, how long do you have.

First of all, favorite for what? For accesibility reasons if it's not a dual stick game I am defaulting to a fightbox-type device these days. I favor a WASD configuration, rather than a thumb-for-up configuration and I currently favor a tiny, minimalist haute board box with cherry switches (blue for buttons, greys for WASD). It's great, it lies on my desktop and it causes minimal strain even in high APM games.

For dual stick stuff, it again depends. Is this a shooter where aiming is a factor? Because then I'm gonna want some gyro. The DualSense is amazing to hold, just bonkers build quality. It is heavy and ugly as sin, though. It also doesn't work perfectly with every PC game, so it feels like a hassle to use it as my default. There's the KK3, which has gyro in Switch mode and seems to be less fussy than the DualSense. Plus they are trying to sell their hall effect sticks to third parties, so those are very smooth. It is a jack of all trades, though, and I actively hate KK's dumb extra button configuration, with start and select all the way at the top, I keep pressing the screenshot buttons by accident.

If there's no twitch aiming, and thus no major need for gyro, Victrix's Pro BFG is fun. It has modular design where you can put the dpad on either location. The dpad isn't great, but hey, the fightbox's there for that. It does have a six button configuration, too, if you're a controller fighting game guy. The best feature, though? Replaceable eight-way gates for the sticks, Gamecube-style. If you're a Smash guy or emulating Gamecube it's such a no-brainer high end replacement.

But honestly? Honestly?

The JoyCon.

I know people hate the JoyCon, but the idea of a split controller is amazing to me, and everybody else who has tried to do it, Lenovo Legion Go included, gets it wrong. The big handles aren't the answer without a middle segment to hold the controllers. The two little boards are fantastic for 3D action games, the amount of tech in such a small frame is astounding and the button-based dpad is so good I'm using fightboxes on the regular now. It's a shame there are some reliability issues, but I would buy a device just like it for PC tomorrow if they could sort out connectivity reliably.

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Logitech RumblePad 2 for the PC.

Basically a knockoff clone of the PlayStation 2 controller for the PC, from around 2008 or so I think.

Still mostly works somehow, except the mode swap button. I don't even need that button anyways.

[–] Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

Although I grew up with Playstation controllers in my hands, ever since I tried an XBox 360 controller I never went back. I've been using XBone controllers on my PC for years now, and I just love the ergonomics of them in my hand, the clicky D-pad, the rounded buttons. I've always hated the PS dpad, it hurts my thumb. Now, I probably won't keep buying "original" XBox controllers, but anything with that shape and feels that comfortable in my hand, will be my choice.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

King Kong 3. 1000hz low delay polling rate, great size, good battery life. Hall effect sticks. Good price for a premium controller too.

Though there are a lot of built in shortcuts which are very confusing but I don't use those.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Stadia controller. I switched my old Xbox 360 controllers for stadia controllers. Chargeable, heavy, ergonomic. Win for me.

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[–] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

An Xbox one controller. I bought a newer seriesX controller but it developed stick drift almost immediately. My Xbox one controller is going on 6 or 7 years now and is still rock solid. And I play rocket league so you know I am hard on them.

[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Back in the day, I think it was Logitech or similar who redesigned a PlayStation controller with some minor ergonomic tweaks. It was a masterpiece. This was back in maybe PS2/PS3 era.

Sounds see if any modern versions exist. I'm still a Sony controller purist, having never really fallen in love with Xbox like so many others.

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[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 4 points 2 months ago

I haven't tried everything out there, but so far nothing I've tried is true perfection. The controller I use as daily driver for my PC is an Xbox 360 controller, which I find extremely nice - except for the D-pad. It also lacks the fancy tricks of the PS5 controller - a controller I Iike less for ergonomics but love for stuff like haptic feedback.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Xbox series X Elite controllers. I'll never go back. They have a good weight and feel.

Sorta on topic, what do people use for N64 emulation? I can't find a 6 button controller that I like.

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[–] celeste@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago

I can't say I've ever really liked a controller, so I never experimented with fancy ones. The one that was the most fine was the ps controller. the joycon was ok until drift kicked in. The xbox controller made my hands hurt after too long. I think if I'd had more xbox games back then I would have gotten more into controllers to find one for my tiny hands. I mostly prefer a keyboard.

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