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[–] newfie@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When he says "left" he is referring to the neoliberal establishment.

He understands that these are not the same thing. But his base doesn't

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah 100%, and he's correct about the liberal unity. They will browbeat each other into voting for candidates that believe in nothing and do not support any policies that favor their constituents in anything that isn't vibes and vague culture war signalling.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah 100%, and he's correct about the liberal unity.

They got four houses of magic special people to choose from, and even one for outright fascists so everyone feels welcome! so-true

Yeah prolly about right....

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

Just goes to show how much time he's spent exposed to any left ideas.

I I've heard this said pretty much verbatim about Republicans

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago
[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

i think this is simply the classic chud case of "if i feel something is true then it must be true". remember when they talk about the left they are talking about some imaginary global elite of trans-communo-islamists that control everything. yeah i would imagine my enemies were unified if i were to melt all of them together to a nebulous (they/)"them".

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they don't argue with each other in public

lol

put aside their differences for the sake of achieving a common goal

I wonder if he's tapping into something kinda true here. Like, if the American conservative movement didn't have a group of people to label "Woke" (21st century neologism, compare to 20th century neologism "hippie"), what would they be? What would they stand for? They don't really have a common ideal beyond, "Bad people go away". They'd fracture and start fighting amongst themselves. I mean, it's a group that includes everyone from fundamentalist evangelicals to crypto-hyping libertarians. For as much as the left fights amongst itself, there's still a broader understanding that a better world is possible, that the pile of things we agree on is larger than pile we disagree over.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

they don't argue with each other in public

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