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I think most people who use it are just scared from the uneducated downvotes/ backlash and I think it just ruins the sarcasm.

I started to avoid using it on other social media as it seems kind of dumb.

My opinion for it on Lemmy is mostly the same but it might work better here if Lemmy had a sarcasm tag instead(the same way NSFW tag work)of /s to signal the sarcasm instead.

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[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 25 points 1 month ago

I've seen at least 4 misunderstandings on lemmy where someone explicitly asked for a /s tag in the end. It's very much needed.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

upvoting because this is definitely unpopular. tone is not conveyed in text and various sarcastic phrases need the intonation to be understood as sarcastic.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Oh really?! Tone isn't conveyed in text and you can't detect literal sarcasm unless it's broadcast like a beacon from someone's warped piehole? Like a ship at sea in the calmest waters, you can't find your way home without a lighthouse?

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 points 1 month ago

Yes? I mean... No? I mean... Help are they being sarcastic?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No, there isn't. Tone is inflection in speech and body-language. In text, you might reasonably think it could be inferred, but that doesn't mean it can't be conveyed. And if someone is missing the inference, piling on "evidence of tone" phrases could be misinterpreted as "more proof of conviction".

Use /s. If you get downvoted because you didn't, that's on you.

[–] Saganaki@lemmy.one 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The problem is readers where English isn’t their primary language.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Or they're neurodivergent. Or they're fucking nazis trying to gaslight new recruits, claiming that the OP isn't actually being sarcastic.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 1 points 1 month ago

I have a modest proposal.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I agree! There never is any confusion in text, it's so incredibly obvious when people are being sarcastic. Tones are so easy to portray. /s

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago
[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

You can be as bitter about it as you like but it absolutely is required. You could come up the most obvious sarcasm you could ever imagine, and I'll find you people that believe you're being sincere.

We live in the post satire era.

I'm not sure how your idea for a sarcasm tag is any different to /s, it seems to be a roundabout way to achieve the exact same thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

As someone who has trouble with sarcasm (especially online), a good /s is always helpful.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

This is a good idea, since its so easy to tell tone over text /s

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are you advocating tags for all inflections of verbal speach or just sarcasm?

[–] python@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The weird thing is, using Emojis is like the perfect way to display subtle and varied verbal inflections in text form.. but people here largely refuse to do it because they see it as cringe

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What is the "I'm being sarcastic" emoji?

[–] python@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I personally like using 😤 for "confidentally stupid" sarcasm and 😬 for "yikes" sarcasm.

There's also the classic eyeroll 🙄 but that one's usually a bit too aggressive for me.

Oh and 🫠 and 🙃 can work well too!

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Personally i just go with whatever conveys that i am not being serious, such as any of these 🙄🤧🙃🤔😏.

Though i suppose i should say i am not 12 and have no idea what the cool kids use, probably 💀 or so

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Back in the forum days it was the wink 😉

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Emoticons are inherently superior! :{)

[–] python@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ooh he's got a lil mustache! That's my favorite emotion!

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

:{)>

Goatee man!

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 month ago

Kaomoji is superiorer ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Forgot the /s

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 6 points 1 month ago

yOu DoN't NeEd A sArCaSm TaG!

You’ll get over it.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So instead of a /s showing sarcasm we’d have a tag showing sarcasm. What exactly is the difference?

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't use /s at all. I eschewed it a few years ago.

Some views deserve to be ridiculed, and that's exactly what I'm trying to invite people to do.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but the assholes will think you agree with them, which bolsters them. It's much more fun to write out something they agree with to a T, and then add the /s tag. Completely deflating, utter devastation.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I agree. It seems fragile to be be so afraid of... Checks nots purposeless down votes from random that are mostly bots.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 month ago

Or maybe gen pop should get better at reading comprehension and learning to ask clarifying question if they are unable to understand content and context for whatever reason.

That's how discussions work.

OR we can just SPAZZZ RHEEEEE, DOWN VOTE BIGOT SOYBOY!