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Green Party candidate Jill Stein is gaining ground among Muslim-American voters in three critical swing states: Michigan, Arizona, and Wisconsin, according to a recent poll by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

Stein leads Vice President and Democrat candidate Kamala Harris in these states, with 40 per cent support in Michigan, 35 per cent in Arizona, and 44 per cent in Wisconsin. This surge in popularity appears tied to Stein’s vocal criticism of US support for Israel during the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 month ago (33 children)

Liberals downvoting this would rather plug their ears and cover their eyes instead of confronting their issues and calling on Kamala to sanction Israel.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

every thread from now until December

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[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

be for genocide

why won't they vote for me

:stick-in-bike:

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Those dastardly russians keep putting sticks in the spokes of my bikes. They even make it look like I'm the one doing it!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 month ago (18 children)

I worry that, if Harris loses because Muslim voters don't vote for her, liberals will side with Trump when he does another Muslim ban.

Or something worse this time.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

liberals will side with Trump when he does another Muslim ban.

Based on how quickly liberals threw DREAMers under the bus when it started being necessary to outflank Republicans to their right on immigration? This is an inevitability. They were going to do this even if they won, based on the way Hillary Clinton won by three million but Black men still had to hear the most about it from the daughters of Emmett Till's false-accuser.

EDIT: You can see exactly what I'm talking about right here being directly weaponized against actually-principled socialists and communists in this very fucking thread. Stay classy, sh.itsfulla.nazis!

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They were going to do this even if they won, based on the way Hillary Clinton won by three million but Black men still had to hear the most about it from the daughters of Emmett Till's false-accuser.

Muslim and/or Arab men also had to hear this nonsense from Harris during the presidential debate when Harris repeated misinformation about October 7, where she said that Hamas and Palestinians sexually assaulted Israelis. How can she expect them to vote for her after that? Harris in general is really bad at speaking to minority men in the United States. I guess that's the predictable end result of Harris making a career out of being a persecutor and sending them to jail.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Muslim and/or Arab men also had to hear this nonsense from Harris during the presidential debate when Harris repeated misinformation about October 7

You and wisdom walk hand in hand from how you picked up what I put down there, this is the one

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Your fear is correct, I've seen liberal Nazis salivating about it on reddit. They really hate Muslims.

Nothing to be done about that though. They were going yo turn on Muslims anyway. There can never be safety in collaborating with Nazis

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Western supremacy and defense of colonialism is the cornerstone of liberalism, so they will, just like all the liberals did during the US war on Iraq, vietnam, and every other war.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean that's what happens when Harris is the vice president of the administration currently carrying out genocide in Gaza. Harris also repeated misinformation about Hamas members/ Palestinian men sexually assaulting Israelis during October 7 during the last presidential debate. How are Muslim voters supposed to trust someone like that? Someone that repeats racist and Islamophobic lies about them and their Muslim brothers and sisters in Gaza. Someone actively part of a genocidal administration. Of course Muslims do not want to vote for Harris, and the reasons are very obvious.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago

that's what happens when you tell voters to fuck off when they suggest ways in which you can win their vote. hope it was worth it!

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Is Jill Stein cool? I don't know much about her

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Green party platform is quite good this year yes. She's been kindof a crank in the past going along with some anti-vaxxers on some shit but I have been informed she changed on that recently.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Jill Stein is cool. A lot of liberals are mad at her because she is snooping votes from the Democratic party by offering people things they actually want to vote for. Especially a weapons ban on Israel.

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[–] DBVegas@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

She's alright but ultimately is a bit watered down compared to Claudia De La Cruz

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Perfectly balanced

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

We're in such a wonderful position: Kamala does nothing about Israel like she's paid to do and Palestinians die.

Trump wins and not only does nothing about Palestine, but encourages Bibi to go harder, more Palestinians die annnnd we get to enjoy the beginning of a fascist dictatorship!

Notice how Stein isn't even mentioned in the above? You can claim it's about putting pressure on Kamala all you like, but this is the literal election. When she loses because of this "pressure" (that isn't pressure, it's literally not voting for her at all) what's the outcome? It sure as hell has nothing to do with Stein being anywhere.

We've been having this argument about the green party for fucking decades and what progress/policies have they "forced" the Democrats to adopt?

I think aside from the obvious genocide, what really fucking pisses me off about Democrats and this topic is that "we" can sooooo easily say "handguns for self defense ok! Shotguns for self defense ok! Rifles for self defense ok (depends on magazine size and rate of fire) bombs? No! Tanks? God no!" But when it comes to Isreal they suddenly completely lose the capacity for nuance... Bombs = self defense? Are you fucking joking?

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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She isn't the only anti-zionist candidate, but she is a good option

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sadly, the democrat party keeps shredding PSL off state ballots, otherwise I'd be voting La Riva. Now I'm weighing whether it's even worth it to go to the ballot spot, or if I'd get more done just working on my coursework that day.

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