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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 130 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 1 day ago

i finally see the end for the first time lol

ty :)

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't get it, the timeline has been known since 2021 and has not changed. We are in the middle of the phase-out. All of this is really predictable.

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate/mv2-deprecation-timeline

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Actually, as someone whose company has been working on updating extensions from MV2 to MV3 for the past four years, the timeline has changed. A couple of times, I think. Originally, MV2 was supposed to be entirely deprecated by the beginning of this year, but they've pushed it back twice and extended enterprise support even further.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 11 points 1 day ago

You are right, my bad, last change seems to be a year ago.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It isn't? I just read that the "Chrome MV2 deprecation enterprise rollout" is in June 2025. When is the exact date for the end v2 support? "The changes will be rolled out over the coming months to Chrome Stable, with the goal of completing the transition by the beginning of next year." is not "predictable". It can be any time between 2024 November to 2025 April, maybe even May.

Imagine giving that kind of a time to friend "yeah, I'll show up probably at the beginning of 2025, but that's the plan, it may be all the way until June 2025". Very "predictable".

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago

It's really standard to leave some time for users to adapt when making a big change. Especially end users. It's actually a good thing, the "friend showing up" analogy makes no sense.

End of support for users is June 2024.

But it did seem to have changed a year ago or so, my bad.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The longer they put it off, the more unnoticed it will go when they finally do it.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 18 hours ago

Exactly, every time it's close the roar against it gets quieter. They're banking on that

[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Didn’t uBlock origin just stop working with Chrome?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Still working for me

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, you post this after the one blocker that worked stops working, and then you didn't notice?

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because we use Firefox or one oft its forks.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

DNS blocker + browser built-in adblocker (+ system-wide AdGuard). Be my guest.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Any browsers with good built-in adblocker besides brave? I feel like firefox's built-in content filtering does the very minimum, but I might be wrong

system-wide AdGuard

This is the way on mobile lol. The android rom I'm using comes with a built-in systemwide blocker, which I didn't know about for a very long time, so I was very confused when I saw other people using the same apps as me and seeing ads lol.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago

Firefox+uBlock Origin

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Firefox Mobile supports most desktop extensions now, so Ublock Origin works too

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[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To my knowledge there are no browsers that have anything similar to brave built in. Ublock simply is incredibly well made (that’s what braves adblocker is based on), so I would always try to use that. Gnome web has in my experience the best built in Adblock except brave (fine for everything but YouTube). AFAIK Firefox forks can change what the built in content filter blocks, at least on librewolf some ads were missing even with ublock disabled.

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Give it two more years and brave will stop backporting manifestv2, then you have even less options to avoid google deciding which content needs to be shoved in your face.

I'm using Firefox since forever. In the past I have checked a few times if a swap to chromium is worth it. It never was.

I really don't understand people that prefer Google over Mozilla. Firefox works like a charm and Google already knows enough about us IMHO.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 9 minutes ago

I really don’t understand people that prefer Google over Mozilla. Firefox works like a charm and Google already knows enough about us IMHO.

Firefox objectively has poor responsiveness in some apps, hence why some "works only in chrome" banners are justified. Can't quite put my finger of it, but it got a lot worse somewhere between quantum and heartbleed(but not because of it, I checked), and it never recovered. In my own projects that were time-sensitive, like 3d games and music apps, I couldn't find the source of it, but found that while some approaches led to major performance hit on firefox, others majorly hit chromium, and vice versa, and it was all about juggling to finding an approach that doesn't hit either as hard. But in some cases there were none and so I had to choose. Obviously the browser engine with a higher market share wins. And because of that, to be on par with Chrome, Firefox not only has to be better, it has to be not worse in all cases, which is a rather tough challenge.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Brave shields are based on ubo, but are patched directly into chromium so they should be immune against v3. Still going to stay on Firefox, but brave is a decent backup option. https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

LibreWolf ? First thing that came up when searching for a non-chrome browser with builtin adblocker.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

to see it smash

I'm not really sure why I expected here but I was satisfied anyway

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Expected a Rickroll; was disappointed.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ivn@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But if the extension is removed from the store you will not get updates.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing you can add extensions from places other than the store.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But uBlock Origin does not set update_url in it's manifest.json so it won't update automatically. You'd have to do it manually every time.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no, I guess it's impossible for that to ever change.

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a good thing to be able to communicate without sarcasms when it's not called for.

But I don't think it'll change, feel free to try and make a PR but you'll also need to setup a server to host the releases and update.xml.

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