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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (16 children)

China is helping China develop Chinese chips?

shocked-pikachu

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the Chinese help China build this Chinese infrastructure, it may reduce Chinese dependence on Chinese chips, since China will be able to produce its own chips instead of buying them from China. This may hurt China economically long term, since China is the largest buyer of Chinese chips by far and if they start buying chips produced in China instead of Chinese chips China's economy might shrink.

Then again this is probably not that big a deal. Just more anti-Chinese propaganda by the US, pushing for Chinese independence from China, without quite going all the way and recognizing China as its own country, since that would go against the long standing policy that China is one country and China is part of that country.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay but how much wood would a wood chuck chuck tho?

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

A LOT. If those fuckers could chuck wood I would even go so far as to say probably all of it.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Republic of China ≠ People's republic of China.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

Well yes. One is the result of a bloodthirsty and corrupt military dictatorship which is directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whereas the other is the People's Republic of China.

However, both are China as you can see from the names they've chosen for themselves.

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[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

grappling with Beijing’s growing belligerence.

Its what? Western news is so full of shit.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Developing 5G communications and microchips for cellphones is belligerence. Bombing countries and funneling weapons to proxy wars is peace.

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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

No fucking way! You mean a country that's almost completely aligned in terms of culture and language and food, and for which immigration policy is basically an open door, and for which economic coupling is at an all time high... trades with their closest neighbour?

Jesus Christ who comes up with these articles?

[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's time to bring some democracy and freedom to Taiwan.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good. Not only one country or society should be able to manufacture advanced technology. Monopolies are bad.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It's like people have already forgotten about the COVID microchip shortages.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

A small country that is economy dependent of another country that happens to be their biggest trader has interest to work with that trading partner.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is a straight-up national security issue for Taiwan. Its chip factories are an integral part of its defence strategy and it needs to be able to use them as leverage to survive.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (14 children)

In which case Taiwan Province should refuse American demands to build chip factories in the US. If Taiwan's strategic value comes from microchips then the US not having it's own domestic supply prevents the US from walking away.

On the other hand, reunification has been a core interest for China since long before microchips were even a thing. You could Thanos snap all the chip foundries away tomorrow and the Chinese interest in reunification would not substantially diminish.

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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except... It's really not? Taiwan's chip factories are simply leverage to drag the West into any potential conflict between the PRC and ROC. Taiwan's defence strategy involves being an island in the ocean built up of mountains, jungle, and cities (all terrain where the defender is extremely favoured), mandatory military service for citizens, and being so economically/culturally tied to the mainland that it's infeasible to break off relations. Taiwan is basically seeking reunification without explicitly seeking reunification: their core defensive strategy relies on being as close to China as possible while being too painful to actually invade.

Of course, this kind of policy didn't help Cuba, but...

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