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Just switch parties already, for Christ's sake.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 144 points 1 month ago

That guy has been such a disappointment.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Odd to see someone so seemingly left of the DNC pivot to being a DINO. Have to blame corporate money for some degree of it. He's completely lost it.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't he recently have a stroke? That might have something to do with it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He had a stroke before he was elected.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

It was a few days before he was elected, and he had an operation on election day. So if he did change there wasn't enough time for anyone to know it.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago

Can't wait to put a different Democrat in his seat. What a disappointment for PA. Total loser.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I feel so vindicated. When he was first elected I was calling out his fake every man persona and getting downvoted to hell for it. Walking around in flip flops and a hoodie as if he wasn't a silver spoon nepo baby. I never bought into his personality as genuine, and found all his bullshit to be a distraction from a lack of substance. Now it's very clear he's a silver spoon nepo baby, he's chosen his side and it's not with us regular folk. It's with his wealthy buddies.

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am inclined to blame the stroke he had, as it has lots of examples of altering people's personality's.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, he had said a bunch of zionist shit before he was elected that people, myself included, assumed he was simply ignorant on and would move left when confronted with the truth.

Turns out it was just wishful thinking.

The stroke probably didn't help, and personality might account for how Fetterman expresses his support for genocide by rubbing his former supporter's faces in it, but there's not a "don't genocide Palestinians" part of the brain that got turned off.

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[–] credo@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democrats are supposed to be a people who believe in redemption.

You have to want redemption first. It’s not just handed to you for breathing.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a disappointment this guy turned out to be.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well to be fair, brain damage can make anyone dumber.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (6 children)

More conservative, as well. It’s rather interesting - anecdotally my grandma’s second husband used to be a kitten loving sweetheart who wrote poetry. He got some concussions when we were tiny and he turned into the most bigoted racist sexist crude unfiltered festering asshole of a person.

Though I’ve read a few times from different sources that tends to be the case.

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[–] rf_@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

His brain is not working properly after the stroke.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

That's just an excuse. Truth is he was never on your side. He's a rich guy's useless kid

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

He had a near-death scare and changed from "for the good of the people" to "everyone for themselves" and sold out to make as much money for himself and his family as he can.

Just my theory, but shit like this can change people when it shows them their own mortality.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Someone’s not getting re-elected.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unless Dr. Oz runs against him again.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's not winning the primary.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think he wants a shot at the governor's office. The Senate seems to cramp his style, and he doesn't have the chops for national politics. He was Lt Gov, and has a significant advantage in name recognition and fundraising as a current Senator. Plus, the DNC is probably already vetting primary challengers to run against him in 2030.

PA is a weird state, in every way possible, and Shapiro did a lot of damage to his image in his attempt to land the VP job. If Shapiro decides not to run for reelection, the Democrats don't have a deep bench in Pennsylvania. Austin Davis is probably the only other name worth considering.

Fetterman would not win anything in a nationwide race, but if he can bring the Pennsyltuckians out to vote for a Democrat, he would win the state in a landslide.

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[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this guy is such a tulsi gabbard ass loser

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago

Most of Pennsylvania is red. Pennsyltucky is a thing. It has one of the biggest KKK groups in the nation.

So my eyesbrows were raised when I saw he wasn't from a more liberal area like Philadelphia.

Not saying they aren't out there in PA. I'm just saying there's a lot of folks who are backwards AF in PA.

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[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

He hasn't even tried redemption. Hell, he hasn't even begun to pay for his previous crimes and is looking to commit more crimes. Redemption is when people try to make things right. How can you say this is about giving second chances when all he's done is try the same shit the second time around. What a disappointment.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This does sound like he's got his tongue up Trump's butthole, but he's also not wrong. There are a lot of Trump supporters in rural Pennsylvania, and they are not swayed by the felony conviction or the racism or the dementia or the rape, because those inbred meth-heads are able to relate to Trump on a personal level.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He's not wrong about some of what he said. He also said this about Trump being a felon-

I mean, I thought Democrats, we were the party that was all about second chances and that we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes or things in that kind of situation.

The idea that the party would give a second chance to Donald Trump when he hasn't even been sentenced yet is insane.

[–] qisope@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

he also characterized trump's actions as "mistakes":

we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes

I guess at 78 trump is still learning and making a few mistakes along the way

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

You're right. I didn't even think about that. What a stupid fucking thing to say.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You also need to be remorseful to deserve a second chance. Be a man and own up to your mistakes.

I do not think TFG is capable of that.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I agree with you completely about that. Honestly, it sounds like somebody who's about to have a scandal break.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well if this guy keeps billing himself as a Democrat then he's not likely to get reelected. He could get out-primaried.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

This is definitely the last time he holds office. He did little other than turncoat after he had a concussion.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What you end up with when all you have is 'the other guy is worse.'

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reading the full quote

“Trump has created a special kind of a hold … and he’s remade the party and he has a special kind of place in Pennsylvania,” Fetterman said Thursday to a crowd at The Atlantic Festival. “And I think that only deepened after that first assassination attempt.”

“I also want people to understand, you know, and it’s not science, but there is, there’s energy and there’s kinds of anger on the ground in Pennsylvania, and people are very committed and strong,” Fetterman said. “Trump is going to be strong and … we have to respect that.

“I’m not going to sit down with a sitting vice president and tell her or say ‘Hey, no, no you better,’” he said. “I’m certainly not going to ‘mansplain’ that [to] the vice

I think he's just saying don't take PA for granted and there's a lot of work. It doesn't sound like an endorsement at all.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You left out the Trump bootlicking part of what he was quoted as saying in the interview, which I find suspicious:

I thought Democrats, we were the party that was all about second chances and that we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes or things in that kind of situation.

Or do you think the Democrats should give a second chance to a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced for felonies that Fetterman considers to be mistakes?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Yeah, he’s soft-supporting trump. This quote plus the “trump is going to be strong” line are definitely pro-trump in some fashion, then not wanting to “mansplain”.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh I missed that. TBH I read this from a different story.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4889312-fetterman-trumps-special-place-in-pennsylvania-deepened-after-shooting/

Yeah the quote is bad.

Reading this story it still just sounds like he hates the approach they're taking about campaigning against him.

Do I think saying Trump deserves a "second chance" is dumb and gross given how much the fucker gets away with on a daily basis? Absolutely. This was not a good way to phrase it. This doesn't sound like someone sucking up to Trump though. It just sounds like someone that doesn't want to lose PA.

I also haven't paid too much attention to Fetterman so if there's other instances of him saying shit like this then I'm happy to stand corrected.

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