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[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 91 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Young people passing the easiest perception checks ever

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

only barely

[–] someone@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

All the propaganda in the world is useless in the face of immediate material conditions.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

In his newsletter Off Message, Brian Beutler argues that Democrats would be making a mistake by conceding the premise that conditions are bad under Biden, rather than bragging about low unemployment and falling crime while promising to help those still left behind. “Maybe turning ‘meet voters where they are’ into an iron rule of politics is a recipe for behaving sheepishly in all circumstances, and carrying the stink of a loser everywhere,” he writes.

Fascists are a silly bunch. You don't look strong by ignoring reality, you look stupid and incompetent. Pretending to be strong didn't help Hitler when the Russians were knocking at his door. It's a shame we don't have the Soviets to save us anymore.

One reason younger Americans’ pessimism matters, Vox’s Eric Levitz writes: There’s some evidence Trump tends to do better with voters who have low trust in institutions. That alone could help explain some of his recent gains with young and nonwhite voters, Levitz argues.

It's not pessimisim, you clueless boob, it's because everything keeps getting worse regardless of who is voted for. Because no political party is doing anything material to combat the challenges we face as a species. We are going through economic and ecological collapse, there is no hope for the future if this continues. Young people are reacting rationally to irrational circumstances.

Donald Trump has been working to get young voters by focusing on messaging about things like the economy — and by recruiting rappers and going to various sporting events, Semafor reported last year.

I... rappers? Is this a joke? Holy shit this is the most out of touch thing I've read. If these are our professionals, we are doomed. You want a reason for the pessimisim? Looking the mirror, Semafor.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Best poster on the site, another banger, Dirt_Owl!

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I... rappers? Is this a joke? Holy shit this is the most out of touch thing I've read. If these are our professionals, we are doomed. You want a reason for the pessimisim? Looking the mirror, Semafor.

Kamala did it first with Offset, Megan Thee Stallion, Lil Jon, and others and it worked really well, you're out of touch with the people

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Last time I checked most people are still pessimistic about elections

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

https://iop.harvard.edu/youth-poll/latest-poll

Biden was leading Trump by 13 points, now Harris is leading by 31 points

Don't get biased, Harris is the new Obama unfortunately, and I don't mean that because she's black, but because she seems young and has high appeal to the youth

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

'young' only when comparing her to dinosaurs

[–] TheaJo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

and by youth they mean almost middle aged

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

They said "likely voters"

What percent of 18-29 year olds are interested in voting? How many aren't voting?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Exactly, their whole strategy is basically to gaslight people. Once people start realizing that's what's happening then there's no going back from that. It also reveals that they absolutely don't care about actually improving conditions or addressing any problems. All they care about is manipulating people any way they can to stay in power.

[–] robinnist@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“Step one is more fully admitting that people are hurting, concerning young voters and all voters, particularly around the economy [and] inflation,” Smith said. “And that we’re doing something about it”

NO YOU’RE NOT AAAAAAHHH

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And that we’re doing something about it”

NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE, SMITH

agony-limitless

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

uh have you heard about the new proposed tax credits sweatie

[–] btfod@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

May despair become hope by the dying of the empire

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Gather your children around the village fire, lest they burn the village to feel its warmth."

I hope America is swept away quickly so something better can be built on its fetid corpse.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago

so something better can be built on its fetid corpse.

to build something better than this country is one of the lowest of all possible bars to clear

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

This. The monster that Amerika and its settlers are cannot be reformed; only put to the torch and relegated to having the ashes crushed into the earth by the foundations laid over them. Burn it and start anew.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile Joe Biden responding to young people's concerns: "Give me a break." biden-troll

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The time to avoid this was when Obama won on a platform of Hope and Change.

They did nothing. They've done nothing for decades since.

The result is a matter of everyone simply looking at the historical evidence. The "lesser evil" party is still an evil party that makes things worse. Of course everyone thinks this. They will only think otherwise when things demonstrably get better instead.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

That should've been a wake up call for sure. Also, recall how Obama crushed the whole occupy movement that correctly identified the problem being with the 1%. That was a great illustration of the failure of the whole spontaneous organization idea. People really should've studied why occupy failed and why a vanguard is necessary for any serious movement.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democrats really are incompetent. They think Obama won on charisma alone. No you dumb fucks. He won because his campaign literally promised things would change and there was a massive effort to register people to vote. The bar is so low, a candidate who has their staff setting up voting booths and registration areas near you makes it easy for people to think "They went through all this effort to reach me, the least I can do is vote for them."

Since 2008, they've completely forgot how that election went. Dems now do stupid shit like skipping over entire states or scold people for not voting. Trump's 2016 campaign was the opposite. His staff obviously understood Obama's 2008 strategy because they had Trump visiting multiple towns everyday promising to destroy the status quo.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

He was also the first major candidate that acknowledged the importance of the internet and used it as a tool to campaign and (mildly - but significant in context) organize.

They really dropped the ball with that one as soon as they got in power. Unprecedented election followed by abject failure.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Wishing America a swift fall and a hard landing onto its owners and their lapdogs. Couldn't happen to a slimier tangle of craven mollusks.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Facts. Fuck coming together; I wanna see settlers suffering. The same way crackers on IG and TikTok do their hood safari shit, their poverty-porn shit tryna be the next Akademics on some "War in Chiraq" shit? I want my folk to be able to go around settler shanty towns just "AAAAHAAA, POLLY-ASSED MOTHERFUCKER!"

John Brown was right about these people.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

I just wanna be in a thriving empire led by bad people, boomers had it so fucking good

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

"I don't know or care if nothing changes because of elections" is the doomer demographic summed up.

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago