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under categories "LEADERSHIP -> SAM ALTMAN": making drugs extremely uncool again (fortune.com)

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

ah, we're here once again

these fucking ghouls

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

by way of a tangent, the android fucking mess there resolved in me nearly putting my computer through a window

over the years I've found many reasons to dislike google, but good god that little excursion gave me a whole fresh set

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I still think about that post from time to time.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it sticks, doesn't it

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

it definitely deserves a longer form article sometime! it’d be very informative to look into how proto-TESCREAL (cyberlibertarian) influences shaped attitudes on psychedelics (including my own) and find the point where the idea of taking psychedelics went from “they’ll make you a better (more egalitarian/antifascist) person” to “they’ll make you a more efficient capitalist monster”.

there are important overarching questions too — how long have fascist groups used psychedelics as an effective tool for indoctrination and control? why do some indoctrination attempts involving psychedelics succeed and others have the opposite of the intended effect? I’ve got the gut feeling that the answers to those questions tie in with the change in ideals I mentioned.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

I don't really miss the "psychedelics make you a better person" narrative. Mostly it just seems like some people perceive themselves as more egalitarian or antifascist after taking psychedelics.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

find the point where the idea of taking psychedelics went from “they’ll make you a better (more egalitarian/antifascist) person” to “they’ll make you a more efficient capitalist monster”.

i think it happened somewhere around the time when microdosing got popular as an idea since that made psychedelics more palatable for normies. 2015ish i think?

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't do drugs, they'll turn you into Sam Altman and everyone will hate you

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Especially artists.

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago

I imagine Sam lecturing wasted teenage me at a party about the logical efficiencies of getting high on psychedelics vs beer and cigarettes. I’m trying to focus on his face while he just talks and talks and I’m teetering and sweating and he just keeps talking

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

These people even take drugs wrong, that's an impressive human experience to fuck up

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

https://archive.is/QEqlU

[+] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world -23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

You guys aren't gonna like to hear this, but being super wealthy and successful is always going to confer some degree of cool.

That being said it doesn't sound like they are doing this because they think it's fun/sexy. The users in this article all seem to frame their usage in the context of mental health. While the merits are questionable, it's objectively better than some Wall Street exec doing coke or slamming booze. I feel like a better article would be questioning government policy that allows billionaires to experiment with psychedelics, but ensures that an actual FDA approved treatment that the average joe could access will never happen.

I can't help but notice these authors all exclusively focus on tech, while giving other high compensation and influential industries a pass. It really feels like a ton of journalists have a personal vendetta against tech that goes beyond the substance of any of their actions.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LOL no-one who is really fucking rich is "cool".

Look at the world's richest people. Felon. Zuck. Saltman. Warren Fucking Buffet.

They're about as cool as used toilet paper.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

yay calling him felon is catching on, i'm so proud :D

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

any of their actions, wtf

EDIT: actually, looking through your posts, logging off is a good idea and we're delighted to help

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

fastest banhammer in the west (6 minutes)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish our dude well in his endeavours to touch grass

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

At some point, that just becomes unfair to the grass.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

holy fuck I was not prepared

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The uncomfortable truths I was referring to was a culture of anti male sexism in parts of the democratic party, as well as a consistent minimization of issues affecting young men.x

this is basically the only thing they post about, what the fuck

I swear I need to stop reading Lemmy. Every second I stay on here is a second I get closer to staying home on election day out of pure spite.

hello fellow democrats all this anti-male sexism in our party is making me want to not vote haha am I right or am I right????

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You guys aren’t gonna like to hear this, but being super wealthy and successful is always going to confer some degree of cool.

"Suck a dick, dumb shit," the administrator said.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

being super wealthy and successful is always going to confer some degree of cool.

Sure...
More often than not it's a negative degree, though.

So cool.

(Also, success is extremely relative; ask the previous example's children how successful he is as a father figure, for instance...)

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OMG, Elon is just a rich lolcow. If he didn't have the money and the "correct" opinions, he would be a target on kiwifarms.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago

please don’t bring that hellhole and its bullshit here

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

you guys aren't gonna like to hear this, but I love the taste of boot. I love to lick every inch of the boot. god yes, every inch has to be glistening and wet. I have to make sure to get all of the gravel out of the treads. the point is I'm thorough. anyway none of you understand normal people

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago