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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Largest prison population both in absolute size AND per capita. Also, random fact, their constitution allows prisoners to be forced into slave labour. Also, another random fact, their prisons are run for profit. None of these facts are related of course!

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Next you’re going to tell me that these for-profit prisons lobby the government for harsher prison sentences for things like cannabis possession.

[–] bighi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Only for people that are black or poor.

[–] cornbread@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Chile, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, Peru, South Africa, South Korea and Thailand.

This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

[–] frickityfracktictac@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

True, however there are bs for-profit elements to even the non-for-profit prisons. Predatory costs to calling / commissary / etc. that still benefit companies when the US imprisons more people.

[–] Hypersapien@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Only about 8% of the US prison population is in for-profit prisons.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Listen I live in the USA, but if thats your best pushback to all those facts - should tell you what a dire state we are in. And prisons that aren't for profit still send out prisoners to for-profit industries to work, so it's kind of a moot point.

[–] geissi@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reminder that the US have never abolished slavery for prisoners and have one of the largest slave population in the world.

[–] Zithero@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yep... And every time there's an employment issue for the agricultural industry, they whip out the prisoners...

However to the prisoner's credit: They do an absolutely terrible job at whatever it is they're doing.

Why? What are they going to do... Fire you? Jail you? You have no incentive at all to do the job well as a prisoner.

Bonus is by doing a horrific job it makes employers less likely to actually request prison workforces.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice to see that even here - a shitposting forum - whenever anybody posts anything negative about America, yanks can't handle it.

[–] trekman10@union.place 1 points 2 years ago

I love how it's full of people whining about having left reddit to escape this shit like bruh this is the fediverse

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And potentially somewhere around half of that population is in there for non-violent crimes, with alot of inmates in for drug offenses, it's absolutely ridiculous. Focus on the people that need to be in prisons, the violent sociopaths, stop trying to turn more people into criminals.

[–] Novman@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And an huge colonial empire ( europe/japan/korea )

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The US isn't a colonial empire.

[–] Novman@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US is one of the biggest colonial empires in history.

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then it should be easy to provide an example of a US colony.

[–] Novman@feddit.it -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can't seriously believe that, come on.

[–] Novman@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can't seriously believe that nato countries are really indipendent. The USA choose single ministers from certain countries and prime minister needs usa approval.

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Are you implying the US chose the prime ministers of Hungary and Turkey?

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You wut mate?

Look up, hmmm what's a good one... Oh oh, Northern Marianas Islands. Go go go

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Northern Mariana Islands are a US commonwealth, they voted for and easily chose it in 1975.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Gosh that sounds an awful lot like colonialism with extra steps. Check out their labor law history. It's a real fun read.

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Why the negativity and sarcasm?

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there a community that exclusively shits on the US on the threadiverse?

[–] ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

-be the "first in the world" -everywhere you go yell "USA! USA! USA!" -sparking people's curiosity and they look into your garden -they find a dystopian horror show, a land where billionaires are kings, millions deprived of liberty, hundred millions depraved of healthcare, an ever increasing tumour of fascists group that wish for some women and minorities to have fewer rights

-ohshit.jpg

You can't have the biggest running circus without everyone starring and complaining and debating.

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tell me you've learned everything you know about the US from 13 year olds online without telling me you learned everything you know from 13 year olds online.

[–] pizzatime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

he's not wrong though. like, the mass shooting yesterday was something like the 340th so far this year? the place is fucking nuts

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] pizzatime@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hmmm so what, only like 20 then? you're right, that's absolutely an acceptable amount of mass shootings in the first half of the year.

totally normal and something every country experiences. my bad.

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

And of those remaining "only like 20", how many were random acts of violence?

We're so close to getting to the infinitesimally small statistical likelihood of this happening.

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Oh and when you're done with that, remove cities too.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How can America have 25% of the world's prison population of the entire country doesn't make up even 10% of the world's population?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I have a bag and in it are 100 coloured tokens. 90 are black and 10 are red. What percentage of tokens are red? 10 out of 100, which is 10%.

Now I pull two tokens at random. In my hand is 1 red token and 1 black token. I can say red tokens make up 50% of the tokens in my hand. But wait? How can the red tokens make up 50% of the tokens in my hand if they only make up 10% of all the tokens in the bag?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

Well see, that's kinda the point of the post.

We're "the land of the free" but also the land of the most non-free people.

[–] DamnedWizard@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We have that percentage because we actually lock up our criminals, unlike Sweden or Germany.

[–] vreraan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Are you stupid?

[–] KillaBeez@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I left Reddit to escape bullshit like this

[–] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You came to the wrong fucking place then.