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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago

They are on a witch hunt, but for what? Or is it a case of windmills?

[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Have fun not having my money!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 95 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Nintendo once again treats its fans with contempt and hostility. It's not a good look.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 hours ago

And Nintendo fans will respond by obediently lining up to immediately buy the Switch 2 and every single re-re-re-rereleased game for it the second it launches.

[–] turtletracks@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 hours ago

If anyone was curious, Echoes of Wisdom is totally playable on the Steam Deck

[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

...Recent laws in Japan have criminalized console and game modding, as well as save file editing....

WHAT? why?.....what???

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 33 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Because:

Due to an amendment in December 2018 of the Unfair Competition Prevention Act in Japan, certain gaming-related activities and services have now been declared illegal. This includes:

  • Distribution of tools and programs for modifying game saves
  • Selling product keys and serials online without the software maker's permission
  • Game save and console modding services
    As such, sales of products such as Pro Action Replay and Cybergadget's "Save editor" have been discontinued.

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/abk551/save_game_editors_and_console_modding_now_illegal/

It's meant to ban sale of hardware devices and services that allow playing pirated games on Switch and such, but due to the way it's worded it just bans them all.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

In other words, Japan apparently hates property rights.

[–] Fijxu@programming.dev 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

lol man is just a game. Let me have fun exploring hidden rooms. No one is committing a crime by modifying their own game save.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

For some of us, finding ways to cheat IS the game.

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 29 points 4 hours ago

Can’t wait for Nintendo to sue Microsoft because VS Code can be used to edit save files.

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 38 points 5 hours ago

We really need to push for more right to repair laws and things not produced by the copyright holder (say for 5 years) should lose all copyright protections.

[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Successful lobbying by Sony and Nintendo I imagine.

[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 133 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Say it with me once again:

Fuck Nintendo.

They're the Disney of the video game industry.

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 4 points 42 minutes ago

They'd sue you for playing their games on their hardware if they could

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

Theres a reason I havent owned a nintendo console or branded item since the gamecube.

and its not because of money.

its because Nintendo, as a company, is an enormous cunt that I wish would fall into ruin.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I have zero desire to give them money. Luckily, there are solid options that aren't them, notably the steam deck for portable gaming and pc/xbox/ps5 for home gaming.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 53 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Soooo they're banning 99% of pokemon content?

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 34 points 5 hours ago

99.999999...%

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 31 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sure Nintendo still make great games, but that's not enough anymore.

One day I hope more video game embrace open source/free software values.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Nintendo does still make good games, and they're the only ones who seem to care about multiple people playing together while sitting on the couch, as opposed to focussing only on online multiplayer.

Which is why it's so annoying that they do evil shit on the side like this. Nintendo are litigious to an absolutely callous degree. Wankers.

[–] Melt@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I feel like Nintendo has this huge army of full time lawyers who have to continuously find enemy to stay employed

[–] wiccan2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's the other way around. Nintendo is a law firm with a game dev hobby.

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Game engines and servers are great candidates for developers to collaborate their ideas into FOSS projects, but the model is harder to sustain for complete works.

While internet games can have subscription models where you pay them for doing game master type activities, moderation, and access to a hosted game server, static games are more like static art where you run into issues getting food and housing when you make your work output available for free. Crowdfunding / patreoning (in the larger sense of the word, not necessarily the app) creators / collectives can be a way for that to work, and we need to support more creators trying that model if we want to see more of it.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

"Nintendo targets free marketing that's much more effective than their really, really weird ads featuring skinwalkers from an alternate reality attempting to appear like normal humans doing the gaming."

[–] LodeMike 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] stellargmite@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Barbara Streisand

[–] LodeMike 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yet another abuse of the DMCA. They seem to think the takedown process applies where any copyright infringement takes place. It only applies if the material is copyrighted by them. Even if the game was pirated and someone in the video explicitly said that, DMCA takedowns would NOT apply.

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

How would they know it's emulated and not video captured from a real device? Are they only targeting when emulators are mentioned / shown in the window?

More reasons to switch to owning your content and hosting on your own platform or a PeerTube instance instead of only hosting on YouTube / Twitch - you can actually fight the takedown notice in court instead of having to accept that YouTube doesn't. Not a legal expert but this seems like a winnable fair use case if you can prove you own the game legally and are using your own rom dump.

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 29 minutes ago

It doesn’t matter if it’s emulated legally or not. They can issue a takedown for showing gameplay captured from an NES hooked up to a CRT if they want.

A fair use defense has to be defended in court, and it’s not just about whether you’re right but also about whether you can afford to fight.

It’s also not certain that a fair use defense would fly. One of the elements for determining whether fair use is market impact, and I suspect that Nintendo’s lawyers would argue that demoing that their games can be emulated - even if the specific demoed games are not being sold - has a negative market impact, since it makes people who might buy a Switch and a Nintendo Online membership to play the official emulated games less likely to do so.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 19 points 5 hours ago

Lots of channels getting strikes are showing anbernic and steam decks and the like running the roms featuring Nintendo games being emulated on said device and not just a video capture of the game

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 hours ago

Another Nintendo classic. Never given em any money and ain't about to start.

[–] mister_frisbie@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Arin was right.