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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 38 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Just 20 years ago a similar hurricane by the name of Katrina rocked the nation and was part of the 24 he news cycle for months. Katrina was (and rightfully so) a huge deal in America, and recognized as a mega traumatizing event.

It’s amazing to me how jaded the American public and media have become in that time, to where this disaster hardly even makes the news and is forgotten before it’s even joever.

I’m honestly not quite sure what to think of it. Have we become so calloused to the idea of climate change that this isn’t newsworthy? Is this more reflective of the corporate capture of media, and insurers not wanting to pay out for destroyed homes and lives? Or is this just secondary to the overriding effort to further a new war in the Middle East?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

The fact that these kinds of events are barely hitting the news cycle really shows how far we've progressed into a dystopia.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 27 points 5 hours ago

I think people no longer have the same expectations for the government to help them. The US government has told the public to go fuck themselves at every possible opportunity.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 4 hours ago

I think investors and the US government got a lot better at controlling the news during the Bush administration, and in the intervening 16-20 years, media people have built their entire careers in that environment. The state department gives the juiciest war news to people who parrot their press releases, so those people advance. The news companies are owned by billionaires with other more profitable investments than the news, who can block advancement for anyone who pushes a story that'd hurt one of those, including talking about climate change. People who do well in this sort of environment have had 20 years to float to the top, and don't need any special coercion to keep pushing the latest war and ignoring something that might be inconvenient to an investor.

[–] heatenconsumerist@hexbear.net 19 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Very real Tweets I have received:

Why is the government responsible for an act of God? Call your insurance company. Get what youre owed. Why is this confusing?

I'll take an imperfect democracy over a dictarship [SIC] every time and call it a win

Stein? Man, if I wanted a MAGA putin puppet I'd just vote for trump

Explain to me how student debt is somehow different from car debt, mortgage debt, and medical debt (!!!) such that borrowers should just be allowed to not pay it? Why is student debt special—especially when having a degree makes you MORE financially mobile.

So funny that a Trumptard is talking about being duped. The MAGAt cult is a sight to behold. [Response to a suggested 3rd party vote]

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

liberals are a cancer

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Explain to me how student debt is somehow different from car debt, mortgage debt, and medical debt (!!!) such that borrowers should just be allowed to not pay it? Why is student debt special—especially when having a degree makes you MORE financially mobile.

Tell me you really fucking hate people younger than you with all the fury of a HOA without telling me you really fucking hate people younger than you. grill-broke

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 hours ago

I got

Liz Cheney made history so fun us

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why is the government responsible for an act of God? Call your insurance company. Get what youre owed. Why is this confusing?

Why is the insurance company responsible for an act of God? Call the government. Get what youre owed. Why is this confusing?

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

what do you mean? people living in the mountains of NC definitely had flood insurance.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I was pointing out how stupid the argument of the highlighted tweet was.

It's a non argument and the opposite can also be said about the government.

In this case, both insurance and the government have the duty to help their customers and citizens.

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago

i belive underisk was being sarcastic because people living in mountains do no carry flood insurance lol

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 10 points 4 hours ago

Over 220 dead as of an hour ago

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 9 points 4 hours ago

Heard a pretty harrowing story from my family there that a group of about 20 people came in for funeral, rented a big house in a rural area, and then the house was destroyed with them in it, killing them. Hearing all sorts of other things too, people being found dead in mud, under debris, etc. Everyone knows the death count must be much higher than just 200

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 26 points 6 hours ago

we may have to start making excuses for the lack of terror

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 30 points 6 hours ago

Did the hurricane victims even bother to hire lobbyists? How primitive.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 40 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Like fuck the death toll, it's horrendous but regardless of how many people died, these are towns and cities that have literally been scoured off the fucking map. People need help, fuck

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 35 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

These stories are so sad to me, but also very interesting. A lot of people I think go through life thinking that if something like this happens, the system will work-- insurance will cover the losses, and if nothing else the government has their backs, when nothing could be further from the truth. These are honestly golden radicalization opportunities.

It's pretty bleak to see though, when people have to realize they have been thrown to the wolves

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately this usually gets them to go right, not left. And support the party that makes their lives worse.

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago

You're presented with a major failing of government like this and then given two options: One party that expresses anti-government sentiment, and another party that currently presides over the agencies that failed and tells you that everything is fine and to not believe your lying eyes when you ask what they're going to do about the six feet of water in your basement.

Which way do you think people are going to go, and at what point does it no longer matter that the first option is defunding agencies that don't accomplish anything? The Democrats cannot blame Republicans for voting against their own best interests when they can't offer a worthwhile material alternative.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 7 hours ago

Better to make more death in the world than to try to stop death, apparently. At least according to both parties in the US government

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 30 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

i thought i saw some estimate that they thought it could be up to 600, was that misinformation or?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen bigger numbers as well, but I guess 200 is the official tally so far.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Whatever they're telling us you know it's gotta be way, way worse. They had to canvas all the houses in NOLA before they could get an accurate count. Not sure if that's been done yet, or being undergone

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It’s currently ongoing. Same as Katrina they spray paint an X on the house with the number of dead and survivors they find.

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

how is that even going to be possible in this case entire fucking towns are just gone

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn’t, and notably there are a decent number of people who are still classified as “Missing” from Katrina. We’ll probably never know the exact number of people killed by this, it’ll be a range

[–] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 16 points 5 hours ago

depressing, they keep more data on us than they could even know what to do with and we'll just have a range of missing people, it shouldnt be that hard to figure out who is missing in this day and age

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 62 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Congress has made no efforts to secure more disaster relief funding... Congress is now in recess until November 12, and while Biden had considered calling Congress back into session early to approve more FEMA funding, there has been no progress.

I love how both parties are like "Sure, there's an election in a month. But fuck anybody who needs help. What the fuck do we care? People will vote for us just because they hate the other party."

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 24 points 5 hours ago

In Ireland, before every election, we have what's called a "giveaway budget", where whoever is in government will give a bunch of random discounts and supports on stuff like electricity and college fees. They're supposed to make the government more popular before the election. They don't do anything to make economic conditions better and they're a pathetic attempt to make people like the government.

It's pure cynical politics, where for a month the government pretends to care. The USA can't even do that. They just let people in their country die, because they're spending all their money and time killing people abroad

[–] buh@hexbear.net 42 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Congress is now in recess until November 12

Is this effectively a 6 week paid vacation?

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

They get this constantly.

Ideally it supposed to be so they can go home and meet with their constituents, but that never happens. They’re afraid of us.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 41 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

They hardly work at all. It's amazing how powerful simple propaganda can be - phrasing for example. They call their paid vacations "recesses" and Americans don't even pay attention.

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Ninja edit

I did a little googling.

How Many Days Congress Is in Session

According to federal records, the House works about two days a week and the Senate works a little more than that.

When else are they supposed to impregnate their mistresses... Or get an abortion for the last one for that matter?

[–] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well duh, when are they supposed to go on extravagant outings with all their lobbiests

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 18 points 6 hours ago

As If legal insider trading isn't enough of a perk - they can have a working dinner and chomp on a $300 meal on the lobbyists dime. And they travel to Paris or London or wherever for free. They pretend they actually go to lectures on climate change when they sightsee. Meanwhile Evil Corp is greenwashing and their execs are laughing.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 6 hours ago

Yes. They work so hard getting bribed, I mean wined and dined by lobbyists, until then.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 34 points 7 hours ago

Whelp, I'm definitely predicting a Trump victory now. Time to place a bet and win some easy money.

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