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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 16 points 1 day ago

Cool, now I can try and remember to get fully migrated to Linux before October next year.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Good. I happen to know companies that will have to kick out some rather nice machines that happen to be just under spec for Win11. Those machines are still top for running Linux.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Honestly, i predict people and businesses will keep using Win10 years after it's become unsafe. We've all seen the local warehouse still running Windows 7, i'm thinking that scenario but for millions of users.

That's a cybersecurity problem, but what i'm most concerned with is the e-waste problem, because there's still going to be a lot of users that do replace their PC. There aren't enough Linux users to buy all the computers that will be rendered obsolete, and there won't be by then either. I myself am a new Linux user but i'm already covered, i don't need more computers, not even for cheap.

I just really hope this doesn't end with millions of good computers landfilled or parted. The third world already buys a lot of our e-waste, so i hope they'll get a crapton of relatively good computers for cheap and run either Win10 or Linux

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We’ve all seen the local warehouse still running WIndows 7

Why would they stop? They don't need the internet. They gain nothing by using a different version of windows.

[–] GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Most (hopefully all) computers in industry running outdated OSs are disconnected from the internet for that exact reason.

[–] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will legit be a fantastic era for Linux on the desktop though... imagine how cheap we'll be able to get perfectly good hardware.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I think so too, but like i said there's only so many computers that you can find a use for.

I think. That wasn't a challenge, don't prove me wrong

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Oh, look, a post on Lemmy about Windows. I'm excited to engage in a unique, nuanced discussion about the topic of the post!

So glad I'm not on Reddit where people just repeat the same predictable thing over and over then jerk each other off.

(I use Linux too. But I hate seeing copy+paste Linux shilling on every Windows post. It's preaching to the choir and uninspired.)

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Linux. The operating system is extremely nuanced, and without a solid grasp of command-line interfaces and system architecture, most of the concepts will go over a typical user’s head. There's also the community's open-source philosophy, which is intricately woven into its development—its principles draw heavily from the ideals of free software and collaborative coding. The true enthusiasts grasp this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to appreciate the depths of these systems, to realize that they’re not just functional—they represent a radical shift in computing. As a consequence, people who dislike Linux truly ARE uninformed; of course, they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the brilliance behind commands like "sudo," which itself is a profound commentary on user permissions and control. I'm smirking right now just imagining those confused novices scratching their heads in bewilderment as the power of the terminal unfolds before them. What fools... how I pity them. And yes, by the way, I DO have a Linux tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the tech-savvy eyes only—and even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Quick question, was that an existing copypasta or did you come up with it

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

It's the Rick and Morty copy pasta reworked for Linux.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Wtf is this a reasonable comment to discuss a nuanced topic where a person who never used Linux and has no desire to can maybe find options to adjust and keep my windows from enshittifying?

Inb4 get linux

I get it. I just don't want to learn a new operating system. And to make it work for most of what I use my computer for.

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[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don’t like people fervently ignore it the article and just broken recording “install Linux” and “Linux is so much better than it used to be”?

Cool. I use Linux for something and windows for others and Mac for others!

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How and why do you have 3 operating systems. Across how many platforms?

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Software engineering work.

Mac for code and other work tasks

Windows for personal use during work

Linux for hosted applications and side projects.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Oh OK. Makes sense. Hosted applications and side projects is like programming stuff? For non programmers do you use your Linux for anything else?

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[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

"Switch to Linux" is always the answer but a Nvidia graphics card, Stream Deck, and GoXLR are all things I use every single day, with no official linux support I'm never going to be able to use it as a daily driver. I have plenty of VMs that I run Linux on, but it's just a non-starter for my day to day gaming rig.

MS should have done what they said and made W10 "the last version of windows" instead of doing the typical corpo bullshit and coming out with an even worse version.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago

Other people pointed out that nvidia and the goxlr have software, but you should know that theres a linux app for the stream deck.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not trying to make you do something you don;t want to do, but my Nvidia machine is working seemingly perfectly with bazzite, I'd assume the other fedora immutables with different focuses might work as well.

[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Thank you, I know I have more homework to do on this before I make a final decision, but the more info the better.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As someone who switched to Linux, and found reasons not to for literal decades, this has helped me:

Have a second ssd in your PC that is untarnished by the windows bootloader.

This way one can easily switch via BIOS / UEFI and no other annoying software.

Dual booting is also less annoying, if you switch via boot menu. It lets you test drive and configure Linux anytime you're in the headspace for it and reduces pressure on yourself.

Install linux on it. My current favorite for your situation would be Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop Spin (what a mouthful). Have another exfat partitioned usb disk ready for file exchange with windows. Again, this makes handling windows easier, has nothing to do with linux.

Nvidia on fedora works good enough. third party repos also help a lot.

streamdeck is wonderful hardware, I know a friend who uses it daily with streamdeck_ui

  • same with GoXLR Configuration Utility. Software is there, the only question is does it work for you.

This is to my knowledge as close to "official" as you can get. Good luck on your journey!

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[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Frankly, I don't care.

I'm going to keep using Windows 10, updates or not, until I absolutely have no other choice, hoping against hope that the cracks in the Recall/AI monolith with have spread wide enough that a future Win 12 or 13 won't have them in it. I don't run a business. I don't keep sensitive information on any internet capable devices and my work uses the AS400 system.

I know Linux is a thing, and about a dozen years ago I spent a year using Ubuntu exclusively. While appreciating the OS, I got tired of chanting magic spells at computer every time I wanted to use software I liked on it, and so went back to Windows.

These days, despite being a reasonably tech savvy person approaching 60, I'm getting to the point where I'm just not up to learning/relearning an OS unless there is a critical need, and using Windows 10 there just isn't. At least not for me.

[–] glaber@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The days of "chanting magic spells at computer" being synonymous with the Linux experience are far gone. I recommend you just make a Fedora installer and take it for a spin on the live test system! You don't need to commit to it to just try it

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[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’m going to keep using Windows 10

Me too. I will be glad to get no updates and not have to worry any more that Microsoft is going to ruin my computer.

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[–] BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Literally moved everything to Linux (Nobara) like 3 weeks ago and the only thing I can't get to work is Bizhawk which I can easily get around. It's insane how far Linux has come for gaming and whatnot.

[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I was thinking how, back in the day, the most popular web browser was IE, which wasn't on Linux. Now the most popular browser is Chrome, which has been on Linux since 2009 or whenever it was.

And of course lots of other big software is on Linux, like VS Code, Zoom, Slack, Skype. And Linux is on the Steam Deck. So yes I agree, Linux has come a long way.

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[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (28 children)

A better use case for linux desktop could not have been invented.

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 118 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Have my second pc on running Linux mint for about half a year now and it’s been a pleasure so far.

I think I’ll be prepared to switch over fully in a year.

So fucking refuse to switch over to 11

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (17 children)

My biggest worry for this is, there's probably dozens of black hats out there that have found some very large exploit for Windows 10, and are holding off on abusing it until the day Microsoft ends support.

Currently, my plan is to make a partition for Linux Mint, set up dual boot, see how much of my daily computer obsession I can execute through there, and then try to slowly transition while slowly moving stuff from Windows. (I am vaguely worried I'll run into that Windows issue where files accessed from outside the OS login are security-restricted. That has even screwed up my Windows reformat fixes)

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This will be the best thing that ever happened to Linux. Hell, it might even make it up to 4.5% market share.

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