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[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Workers, hearken, they are going to war

And they yell: "For nation and race!"

This war is the rulers of the world's

Against the working classes!‎

Hanns Eisler in "Der Heimliche Aufmarsch"

(works for both sides ngl)

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 33 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Every man who gets away stays alive to rebuild later. Every man who gets caught extends the war and dies for nothing.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's super hard to get away now..

Zelensky's regime may have troubles with keeping the eastern border safe, but the western one is defended like no other (that is, from people trying to escape of course).

And the bribes to get out legally are more than 10k$... For lots of us (especially for people living in villages) this is an amount of money we've never seen in a lifetime.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 15 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

we had to use coyotes when we left mexico for the united states and that experience has left my entire family in desperate need of psychological counseling for the last 5 decades.

my heart breaks for the people who have to do something similar.

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

There's still a nightlife in Kyiv? The war there is worlds apart from what's happening in Gaza. Gaza hasn't had electricity or water for a year now.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 day ago

Yes but Blinken said Russia is committing genocide so la la la la la I cant hear you!!!

Slava ukrainazis!!!!

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@poVoq@slrpnk.net how many more Ukrainians are going to have to be murdered by the regime for you to be happy?

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You're finally admitting that the Russian invasion is murder?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the murder of people who are being gang pressed into fighting by the fascist regime the west installed and people like you support.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isn't umm fighting against invasion is required by law for most countries?

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 22 hours ago

Sometimes the law is wrong, and following it is wrong

Dying for nothing in a lost war is one of those times

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weird way to justify people being forced to fight into something they clearly don't believe in or have any interest defending.

[–] wellfill@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Let's not forget that most countries also have constitutions. The citizens constitutional rights cannot be overshadowed by draft. Therefore forcible totalitarian draft is not legal. Here it's problematic because sovereign legal institutions are non existent in Ukraine and lets admit that in many states legal institutions would crumble when defending citizens rights against violent governments.

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[–] lps@social.trom.tf 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

@yogthos For any western liberal that is cheering on this bloodshed on behalf of Western capitalist powers, I invite you to jump on a plane and pick up a rifle.

This conflict has only two outcomes. A peace deal through negotiations as with any war in history, or WWIII.

Sadly, the American stance "we will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian" is the reality. Once the smoke clears, if there was a victory, it will be the property of Western interests like Black Rock.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously, wish all these people would just sign up for the foreign legion and put their money where their mouth is.

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[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Just today Zaluzhnyi (ex AFU Commander-in-Chief) said that if needed, they will start mobilizing (so kidnapping from the streets, etc.) women too.

And then it finally going to be a proper, total genocide of Ukrainians...

I am sure there are no red lines for Zelensky's regime now... He can start murdering kids, and it will be met with western applause...

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