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Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.

Original Broadway Poster:

Movie poster:

Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”

So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.

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[–] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 129 points 1 month ago (28 children)

If it was her decision that her full face should be on display, the backlash should be evidence enough that someone else gets paid to make those decisions, not her.

The original looks boring. She has absolutely no emotions on her face. There's no mystique, no 'wickedness'. Even the composition looks like something a high schooler in Photoshop class would make.

The edit isn't perfect either. But at least it pays homage to the original in more than just image. It adds that mystique back, and makes her look more menacing.

What it truly boils down to is ego. Although the edit is better, and so many people agree on it, it doesn't show her full face. And she can't let that go.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 57 points 1 month ago

Guaranteed this whole thing came up before that it didn't match the style. She showed her cards and now makes it sound like she was the one who pushed against matching the original. Now that the fans see it and dislike it (probably like they warned that fans would), she's mad about it. It really sounds like she pushed for this design so it wouldn't hide her face and now she's furious that fans reacted in the exact way that was predicted.

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[–] stewie3128@lemm.ee 99 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The ego and vanity is astounding. And the movie poster sucks because she's looking straight at the camera.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

And I'm 90% sure that originally they wanted to make it matches the original styling but she fought to keep her face fully visible. So that's why she's so irked that there's a fan who made that edit and proved the people who suggested that in the first place right.

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[–] nobody158@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 month ago

Imo the fan one is better. They should have done the red lipstick with a smirk rather than green and looking bored.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

Congratulations I guess?

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago

Stolen from reddit

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If that’s the most offensive thing they have seen they live a charmed life.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bit of an overreaction if you ask me

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Theatre kids gonna theatre

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nerve status: Struck

As we all know snapping at the fans, especially over matters of source material accuracy, always works out well for everyone involved in the making of the adaptation.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah. Metallica sued their fans 20 years ago and I still won’t listen to them on purpose and shit talk them when I hear them.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

because, without words we communicate with our eyes

IDK, the original and the edit both communicate way more mystique and mischievousness than the one with her eyes visible

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 1 month ago

You know, like how the wicked witch would

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Huh. This is why you need a PR team.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 25 points 1 month ago

Yeah maybe not calling out your fans on making things that build excitement for your upcoming project is the best course of action as an actor. It's like Daisy Ridley calling out Star Wars fans for having the wrong body shape in cosplay or something else equally stupid. They're fans. They're having fun. You don't get to tell your fans how they're supposed to enjoy your work.

[–] Banichan@dormi.zone 34 points 1 month ago

Fans did a service on that one

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 34 points 4 weeks ago

What an utterly ridiculous and inconsequential thing to get upset about. Someone should tell her to re-read what she just wrote and think about how stupid it sounds.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In matters of taste, the customer is always right.

Nobody but the audience gets to decide what the audience wants. Not writers, not actors, not directors, not graphic designers. If you can give the audience something they didn't know that they wanted until they got it, so much the better for you. But if the audience just plain wants something else, then there's no amount of cajoling or negotiation that will make them feel otherwise.

That said, I have no idea what the collective response is to either of these posters, and this does feel a bit like a tempest in a teapot.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Totally proportionate reaction.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read the text before the post title and thought it was some witchymemes joke rant about people stereotyping witches which would have been kinda funny. A shame that she's serious.

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[–] rothaine@beehaw.org 26 points 1 month ago

In the original Broadway poster and the fan edit, it looks like they're up to something--there's some mischievousness at play, some wickedness.

I don't really know what the full-face one is supposed to convey.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 24 points 1 month ago

Yea lady, that's totally just as bad as people asking if your ***** is green.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 21 points 1 month ago

One thing I've noticed over time is that people in Hollywood are pretty normal.

/s

[–] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah unless there's any black women who want to educate us on the reality that black women have been historically had their eyes erased or something, this is just fucking weird.

They didn't even like try to edit her to make her "more white" or something, like in terms of her facial features.

Sometimes people are seriously just oversensitive and looking for enemies where there are none.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As a white person I'm definitely not the one to say if that's bad or not - but yeah that would be 100% a teaching moment - because I am not aware of anything like that. Instead of slamming down the hammer of "most offensive thing I've ever seen" for what I can only see as a fan poster that's mimicing one that already exists she could have said something like "I understand why they did this, but here is why I disagree with it". Personally as a fan of wicked, I was disappointed by the poster. Not enough to make my own, but the original poster was iconic to me.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The original composition with her eyes covered is just better and way more interesting.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I was on the fence about giving any time to viewing Wicked but I think it's gonna be a hard pass now.

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Look, I'm all about listening to a woman of color explain how something that might seem innocuous to a white man like me might actually be harmful. I'm willing to accept that there are things I don't fully understand and I'm willing to take a different perspective if pressed.

But I can't wrap my head around this one. Elphaba is a fictional character. The movie poster is almost the same as the Broadway playbill. Theatre nerds with photoshop adjusted it as a homage, and understandably so. Hiding beneath the the rim of your hat with a smirk on your face has a much different feel than staring deadpan at the camera. Wicked fans are just expressing their excitement about this movie...

This argument that "covering my eyes erases me and silences my nonverbal communication" just doesn't check out. It's clear why people made that specific adjustment, and to suggest that it was a deliberate attack against the actress is just grasping at straws. This isn't a story about the woman Cynthia Erivo, this is a story about the character Elphaba Thropp, The Wicked Witch of the West. She isn't the first to play Elphaba, and she won't be the last. If she's mad that people see the character she plays and not her, she needs to reconsider her philosophy towards acting, because that kinda the whole point...

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[–] FatherGascown@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

What is she trying to communicate anyway? She has the plainest, most boring face of all time, just staring at the camera with the eyes of a dead fish. There is no communication going on.

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