Everything is extensively documented these days. If any future society has access to those photos, and understands they're AI generated, they'll also have access to our history.
this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2024
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But what if there’s some sort of nuclear/zombie/robot/alien-apocalypse which results in tremendous data loss. Maybe a thousand years from now a future archeologist wonders why there are so many cursed pictures from a particular era. That might be a deeply unsettling mystery until someone finds an ancient research document about image generating AI. However, if nobody finds that document, the archeologists might just go with the traditional “ritual purposes” explanation.
What's a bit more likely is that, in the future, the "Department Of Truth" will have access to all digital information and will have no trouble at all re-writing history at will.
In the future, kids will watch The Flintstones and laugh at the antennae TVs and landlines in Bedrock and think that the antiquated tech is the joke.
They might just do that today
Don't project the future through the same eyes you observe the past with.
Things like this usually don't happen because unless it was more than 100 years the past there is empirical accounts of whatever it is theyre pondering about.
The other side is how noone has gotten to the point of studying the history of technology. I mean I'm under 40 and I remember life with no internet in the house muchness in your pocket.
Also dont forget were recording humanity at an unprecedented scale now and show no signs of slowing. There will likely be a flood of media and resources to actually watch how most shit in the past was done 100-500 years from now.
The other side is how noone has gotten to the point of studying the history of technology.
Drag is pretty sure lots of archeologists have studied technology. For example there was the search for the recipe for Roman concrete.
So you're the special kind of dumb that needs obvious inferences spelled out while trying to play it off as being cheeky👍🏿 THE TECHNOLOGY THAT MADE DATA THE MOST VALUABLE ASSET IN THE WORLD. YOU KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS SO RECENT THAT THE PEOPLE "STUDYING " IT ARE DOING SO TO MAKE ADVANCMENTS NOT TO LEARN FROM THE PAST
Please don't have kids, I'll venmo you the cost of the abortion.
Drag thinks pretending that only electronics are technology is disrespectful to the scientists and engineers of the past who created technologies like the aqueducts, the roads, ships, kilns, swords, and recreational marijuana use. And it limits our ideas about what the future of technology can be, constraining us to a single vision of ever-more-complex computer systems as technology. Drag thinks we need a change in language to provoke a change in thinking. That will open up new directions in science. For example, meditation is a technology, and in the last 15 years psychologists have been pushing scientifically backed up meditation practices to help people. That's technological progress and it's good. We need to open our minds to possibilities like that.
Also here's a wikipedia article on the history of computer science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computer_science. Drag learned about the history of computer science from drag's teachers in school. Alan Turing and Von Neumann and Charles Babbage.
Stop referring to yourself in the third person using a screen name. Fuckin'... Just damn weird, man...
Drag is referring to dragself in the first person using drag's drag/dragself pronouns.
They must not fix this. I was happily second screening a fall themed YouTube music channel and my wife walked past and went "oh that AI whacked one" I go "nah" it's just normal Rockwell inspired". We wait a couple of seconds and the very next pic has some well drawn kids and books... Most with 5 fingers and two thumbs per hand and I go dammit they got me.
No, we don’t.
I like to think they will think it was a kind of "aggressive architecture" to keep people away from looking at these pictures because they are cursed. Especially because, with everything happening all over the world, it is not too much to think that the future could be a dystopian, extremely religious world.
Fool. You act like AI shit won't be that common in 2025. /s
it's already pretty much fixed in Flux.
What do you mean by Flux?
what blue magma says. it's great.
Nice profile picture, by the way!
also, it's funny that people get mad at me (referring to the downvores) simply for stating a fact. it conflicts with their narrative that AI is stupid and bad and useless.
"Flux" is the name of an open source image generating AI model. You can run it on your own hardware.
Nah it'll be like what we think of this kind of art.
It’s not art.
"Keyframe animation isn't art"
"EDM isn't music. Pressing a button isn't music"
/s
My take is that EDM is created by humans and RUN on computers. And no I wouldn’t say that pressing a button is a musical talent at all. Though I don’t think anyone is arguing this point.
But pressing a button to play a music track of ART that was created by a human being- isn’t AI.
So there’s the separation. AI “art” isn’t art if a human being isn’t involved in its creation. It’s thoughtless and emotionless imagery.
Humans create art. Machines don’t.
"Hip Hop isn't music. Sampling old tracks isn't music"
"Rock'n'Roll ~~isn't music~~ is the devil's music."
But then again, AI art takes all the humanity out of it.
Depends on how you look at it. These models weren't trained in a vacuum. They were trained on data generated by humans. They are the amalgamation of all human art throughout human history. They are a reflection of us, the way a child is a reflection of their parents.
That being said, I am very excited for art generated by collaboration between humans and these models. I for one would love Castle Swimmer (a webcomic) to be turned into an animation. Currently, no one will fund any such project. With video gen models however, I'm very positive we would get to see this.
The original author's story is still there. Her characters are there, her dialogues are there. They're just brought to life visually. I still find a lot of humanity in this.
It is art.
See? Convincing argument isn't it?
Its their Original Sin