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[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They forgot Reddit. Reddit is full of open racism all the time.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

4chan is a flaming trash heap

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The worst place I've seen racism is the YouTube comment section of police bodycam videos. I swear the >50% of the videos will be of white people but whenever it isn't the comments are filled with racist stuff.
Infact I went to a bodycam YouTube channel and clicked on the first one from an African American male and picked out some comments sorting by newest. Here are some examples:
"always the same breed" (11hr ago)
"Pew Pew. just saying."(13hr ago)
"Bet they got an OR bond cause of "racism" "(51 minutes ago)

This video is 2 months old.

And this comedy:
"Your Sargent don't want you arresting [censored n-word]

Because the crime stats shows how they ruin and destroy your country USA [fist emoji] [American flag emoji]

Government don't want Americans to realise how immigrants come to America [American flag emoji] to commit crime"

which... isn't even true, Immigrants have been about equal or even lower with the White US-Born population


source

Anyways, what I find the most disturbing about the YouTube comments is that it's so surface level compared to something like 4chan or other obscure forums. they're shouting their racism to everyone who will listen

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

WhatsApp? Isn’t that just like, a messenger? Would think you’d want better friends if you’re encountering hate speech in your group chats haha

[–] thisguy1092@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Spoken like a true non-minority

[–] thisguy1092@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

More like who doesn’t lol

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 5 hours ago

I guess the people polled don't play multiplayer video games if "other" is only 6%.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

I feel like the only people left on X are the people who don't think their hate speech is hate speech...

I'm firmly in the "not very often" camp, and I think it's because I don't use any of the services mentioned, and I generally avoid the comment sections of most websites.

If you're seeing a lot of hate speech, maybe consider not visiting sites where you see hate speech? Ideally we'd solve the root problem, but I'm worried a lot of people are just feeding the trolls, which creates a positive hate speech feedback loop.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

33% seems high for "people who are apparently barely ever online"

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Racial slurs and epithets seem to be fine, talk about killing rich people though and you get banned real fast.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The regime knows what can happen ever since the french and soviet revolutions.

So regime whores will censor the sentiment.

You can always check who rules with this one simp trick!

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like lemmy.ml voters didn't like that remark. Poor tankies, truth hurts them more than most.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 10 hours ago
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago

Yeah this had been my observation too

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 11 hours ago

Even on Lemmy.

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 33 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The bar chart might be more useful if they weighted the source with its number of users. Facebook isn't 7 times more hateful than Telegram. It has around 3.5 times as many users - but also the two are used very differently. I use Telegram, but only as a free messaging platform for automated alerts.

Then there's the algorithms, which tend to feed you what you engage with and from those connections you've made on it. The exception recently is X which has a very strong political bias and has turned into something that pushes hate very strongly.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is the same problem often encountered when reporting crime statistics. New York City, which has almost 9,000,000 residents, has a lot of reported crimes. However, when measured against the number of people who live there, it is, statistically, one of the safest cities in the country.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As usual, a statistic is made much more useful when looking at as per capita.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

I’m glad that I learned basic statistical analysis in high school. Most people never get any education in statistics whatsoever. It’s responsible for a massive amount of misinformation and misunderstandings.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Don't know how the question was phrased, but remember, many people find a comment that disagrees with them or presents a fact they don't like to be "hate".

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

And the other third is committing or just unaware of it. I encounter it several times a week and virtually no platform cares about most of it. Although I'm pleasantly surprised to almost never see it in my communities on Lemmy.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Great list of websites to never visit 👍

I get enough hate-speech during on-line video games. By not using any of those apps, I successfully save myself from multitudes more, while also foregoing any potentially addictive status-seeking site-based-compulsions. I used to play Clash of Clans on my phone because it was a good way to waste a couple minutes while taking a shit. I quit when I began to play too much. I feel like Facebook, twitter, instagram, they're all just sites to waste time on. Which begs the question, why waste time on them at all? Why waste time?

I know not every moment can be spent fruitfully, but when something you do to waste a bit of time in between/during mundane tasks becomes something that now demands attention outside of that, then it's time to stop wasting time on it.

Huh, I use zero of those websites, and haven't for something like 15 years. And as it turns out, I see very little hate speech. I wonder if those two things are related...

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

can relate, i am the hate speech

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 11 hours ago

I experience hate speech any time i see teevee...

They hate working people and yet, nobody cover this hate speech 🤡

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Or another way of putting it, 1 in 3 people don't recognize hate speech online.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 hours ago

or 1 in 3 aren't on Xitter

😋

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee -1 points 10 hours ago

This amount actually seems low.

If the survey is reflective of real world percentages. Women are close to half of all people. White men are 31% of the US population. Assuming some of them aren’t straight men or have disabilities, thats a pretty large possibilities of options that someone can fling hate at.

To be clear, straight white men can also experience hate. I don’t want to discredit them. It just seems to me that most of the hate is directed at other identity groups, so I’m using it to make a point.

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 hours ago

2 in 3 people are the ones doing it