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I keep thinking this would have been a much better sell to devs and to users. I have always used Sync, and Boost. I tried the official app a few times, but really only used it for the chat feature. I didn't want to pay for it, but (I am embarrassed to admit it) I would pay premium to keep my app. I think this would have worked out better for Reddit than the garbage they are pulling right now.

Would that have been a more reasonable solution in your opinion as well?

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[–] Fickle_Ferret@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Hah, no. Are you asking if I want to pay for access to a platform that is already dependant on its users to create or aggregate content, while they are already making ad money off my eyeballs? Heck, no, never. If that site cannot make enough money on ads alone, while being one /were of the most visited non-porn sites on the internet, then maybe they should reconsider their other expenses. E.x. Is it really necessary to have a downtown office in an expensive us city, or pay out high CEO wages. I can only really conclude that they are being stupid about this. If they want me back, they are going to have to beg.

[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would have considered that at the start, but at this point they've damaged their ecosystem so much, and correspondingly Lemmy has grown a lot, so I don't see why I would go back either way.

[–] Fubarberry@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah exactly. My trust and relationship with reddit has been damaged. Even if they roll back all the API pricing changes the damage is already done.

At the very least they would need to fire spez for me to think anything has changed or is going to get better.

[–] HERRAX@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the fact that he seems devoted to following musk's business practices leaves litte faith for Reddit to ever get back on the right track again. Besides, I'm loving my time here at the fediverse and will probably start selfhosting my own private Lemmy server soon!

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Lol, not anymore.

[–] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't have paid for, but i would have accepted much better. "API usage is ad free hence only premium users can access it" is much better than "API users are freeloaders that take more than they are giving, fuck them!"

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think if they'd framed it properly, in that by using Apollo I'm bypassing their ad revenue and costing them money, I'd see it as a reasonable compromise that I pay for Premium to support the company and carry on using Reddit in the way I preferred.

Now? Fuck u/spez

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Like two or three weeks ago if they said third party apps need to create a couple dollar per month subscription, then I probably would have bit. Now, with the current leadership? Nope.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

If they had given us a heads up that we would need a subscription, early enough in advance.

If they didnt limit the content we could access.

If the price wasnt ridiculous - Im not paying Netflix, Amazon Prime, or Game Pass money to access a web forum.

Then sure.

But Spez fucked it up. Hes shown that he really doesnt care about the communities, the people that make it up, or even reddit itself. Hes too bent on making that IPO and bailing out as soon as he can.

[–] mrecondo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No reddit is dead to me. Anything that is used by ceos to fuck over the people. Let it burn for all I care.

Actually scratch that. Let it pump to obscene levels and after all those rich riches have bought in. Dump that thing into the Earth's core.

Far too much money and corruption in this world.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If this was an option, Reddit would have done it.

But, their goal here is to completely deplatform 3rd party apps, and my assumption is that they are doing this so that their number of active users can't be verified and those numbers can be pumped up--by counting bots and all sorts of crap.

This is the same tactic Twitter used when they were negotiating with Elon. More "users" is more money.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

At this point, no. I took June as a Lemmy test drive, and turns out I like it better. The API change doesn't affect me too much, as I primarily interacted with Reddit through a web browser, but generally things have been going downhill for Reddit. I found a viable alternative, I'm sticking with it.

[–] cocolopez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, once they showed what they're up to, this could happen again in some new kind of paywall. Really hope Lemmy continue it's ascension

[–] JRepin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not. If I learned something from Twitter and Facebook and Reddit fiascos then it is to never ever let youself be trapped into a closed-source, centralized for-profit platform. So NO, unless they make it completely open source and decentralised so anyone can setup their own instance. But then again we already have Fediverse and Mastodon and Lemmy... so why bother with that, let's improve what treasure we already have.

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

lmao fuck no. I was on reddit for 12 years until recently, but at this point, there's nothing they can do to win back my trust. Reddit is just another corporate giant these days, and has been for a long time. Huffman is the reason I no longer wish to support reddit in any form, and they can make promises all they want - I've happily jumped ship and will be staying here.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe before spez dug his heels in the ground. But now he's said too much. He admires Elon? Fuck off.

[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] primaryuser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No. Even if they decided to do something to placate us today, they've shown their hand and demonstrated they don't give a shit about their userbase. I have no plans of going back. Period.

[–] small44@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

No i don't want another subscription. Never had a problems with ads as long as they are not abused

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would have IF it had been the solution Reddit had came up with in the first place AND they hadn't destroyed my trust in them with their handling of the protests.

I have an issue with your proposed solution though: it does not address the use case of moderation / accessibility / utility tools and bots.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No. They're allowing more and more spam outside of their ad platform. They're actively user-hostile. I already don't like it for free, why the hell would I want to pay for it?

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Obstruct7794@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never paid for it before and I wouldn't start now. Especially not after how they've been handling the whole situation.

I do agree with what you're saying, though. Many people would have been fine with paying to keep their favourite apps.

[–] phlemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They've showed extremely bad faith. That's hard to recover from.

[–] FrickAndMortar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Three weeks ago, I totally would have… Apollo was life! Now, I don’t think anything could lure me back…

With Spez’s comments about how Reddit has all this data, and “we’re not going to just give that away for free”, I think anyone left on that platform is going to get sold so hard to anyone with two nickels to rub together, that they will effectively have zero privacy or anonymity… no thanks, Spez.

[–] lrabbt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the problem rn is that Reddit is shitting on its users, sometime ago, I'd pay, but now I'm gone for good, even if they revert everything

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't go back to reddit even if they paid me to do it.

[–] empyrean@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, bridge is already burnt.